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I have yet to meet anyone in person who actually likes it

  1. #201


    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    If you compare the concept of live tiles and feeding new information in one screen, versus a Desktop with five different open windows; what will take more time to view?

    IMO, the 5 open windows will provide info quicker. Even if you clicked each one individually, you are bound to get way more important information faster using the 5 windows than you will with live tiles. Live tiles have some merit. For instance, as a whether app icon that shows you the whether. There is a single useful piece of information, that is a useful addition to the icon, and I can make use of at a glance. Reading email on my icon? no thanks, that would take forever. (maybe show me the 3 most recent people to email me.) In any case, when the rest of your program icons turn into a white box with a tiny icon in the corner, they hardly become worth it..
    I'd agree with you if the windows opened minimized in orderly rows and columns. That the boot time would be as quick also.

    www.eightforums.com/showthread.php?t=16379

    The Start Screen is here to stay. It's MS's new vision of the future presently here.

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  2. #202


    DeLand, FL
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    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Also, I don't have to use google to figure out how to log off my machine.. That was an embarrassment when I was working with a client, and I had to google how to log off..
    As an IT professional you should of been embarrassed, embarrassed that you didn't try ALT-F4 from the desktop or CTRL-ALT-DEL from anywhere to log off.
    POW!

    As a music lover you should be embarrassed, embarrassed that you didn't express that with a little more tact!

    -Max
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  3. #203


    Chester U.K.
    Posts : 43
    Windows 8 Poo Edition (& Windows 7 Premium)


    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post

    The Start Screen is here to stay. It's MS's new vision of the future presently here.
    I remember people saying that about the Start Menu...
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  4. #204


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I didn't say anywhere that it was bizarre behaviour, merely that one is being forced to use cloud services if you want to use the calendar function. I use Outlook exclusively, but many were happy with the light version as well.
    The way you phrased the question implied that you believed it was unreasonable to tie their calendar to an online account. There are plenty of calendar apps out there you can install that do not tie to an online account. Microsoft does not force you to use theirs. This is the thing that is I don't understand about people that complain. You complain about things as if it was your only option. It's not. It's only the option they included out of the box.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    But that's only one minor issue; whereas, you ignored the main gripe that I have with Windows 8. And that is what I believe is the main complaint of the vast majority of users who find Windows 8 a retrograde step. The OS in itself is clearly improved, but the user interface, as far as desktop users are concerned, is deeply flawed.
    In your opinion. In my opinion, I like it just fine. Why is your opinion any more valid than mine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    We have yet to hear much, if anything, from Windows 8 Pro tablet users regarding their experiences. Mine was unsatisfying. Defend the user interface as much as you like, but it is flawed and destined to failure unless Microsoft listens to those complaints, however minor, and is prepared to address those complaints. You can keep shooting the messengers, but eventually the message will get through.
    You keep forgetting that your opinion isn't the only valid one. I like Windows 8 exactly as it is. Why should you win this argument more than me? if you don't like it, don't use it.

    As for why there are no opinions on the Windows 8 Pro tablet.. it's because it's not yet released. How exactly is your experience with the windows 8 pro tablet unsatisfying when it's impossible for you to have had one?
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  5. #205


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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Also, I don't have to use google to figure out how to log off my machine.. That was an embarrassment when I was working with a client, and I had to google how to log off..
    As an IT professional you should of been embarrassed, embarrassed that you didn't try ALT-F4 from the desktop or CTRL-ALT-DEL from anywhere to log off.
    Or, you know, the paradigm that almost all the major email apps now use (gmail, Hotmail, yahoo, etc..) to click on the username in the start page and choose log off. I mean, almost all users who use the internet know this.


    You folks are right.. I should have thought of cntrl alt delete, or logging off from task manager... after all, I do that all the time when one of my colleagues forgets to log out of a windows server and I need to free up a terminal log in. I was simply thinking that there had to be a more obvious way, and when I did not find it right next to the obscure place where they put the shutdown option, I resorted to google. I was looking for something obvious to show my client..
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  6. #206


    Posts : 219
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    I guess, everyone will just have to agree to disagree. I have yet to hear a compelling argument as to why the OS is better sans start menu, or why start screen and start menu cannot co-exist. Having asked the question why they omitted the start menu, the best answer I have received is that 'no one would use the start screen if they had the start menu available to them'. Again, I find that answer to be very telling.

    Still, this is the direction microsoft has chosen. Time will tell if it works out well for them. I look forward to having my mind changed, and to meeting someone in person over the age of 12 who likes windows 8 (last night I met a 12 year old who loves windows 8 because of the ready access to free games.. well, that is something I suppose.). To those on these boards who like it in all its forms, I will simply say that I am glad that you do, and I believe that you would like it no less had the start menu been left in the OS as an option.

    While I understand the direction Microsoft is going, and the reason they are going there, I simply would hope that they would not disregard the desktop users who comprise the bulk of their install base on the way. It will be very interesting to see how this pans out for them...
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  7. #207


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    win8.1.1 enterprise


    [QUOTE=R0bR;169840]
    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Also, I don't have to use google to figure out how to log off my machine.. That was an embarrassment when I was working with a client, and I had to google how to log off..

    i use to use the alt+f4 for computer shutdown ,then i found this .
    Power - Add Cascading Desktop Context Menu in Windows 8
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  8. #208


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    Forbes has an explanation for the puzzle..

    Microsoft Is Fast Turning Into A Sideshow - Forbes


    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I guess, everyone will just have to agree to disagree. I have yet to hear a compelling argument as to why the OS is better sans start menu, or why start screen and start menu cannot co-exist. Having asked the question why they omitted the start menu, the best answer I have received is that 'no one would use the start screen if they had the start menu available to them'. Again, I find that answer to be very telling.

    Still, this is the direction microsoft has chosen. Time will tell if it works out well for them. I look forward to having my mind changed, and to meeting someone in person over the age of 12 who likes windows 8 (last night I met a 12 year old who loves windows 8 because of the ready access to free games.. well, that is something I suppose.). To those on these boards who like it in all its forms, I will simply say that I am glad that you do, and I believe that you would like it no less had the start menu been left in the OS as an option.

    While I understand the direction Microsoft is going, and the reason they are going there, I simply would hope that they would not disregard the desktop users who comprise the bulk of their install base on the way. It will be very interesting to see how this pans out for them...
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  9. #209


    I hate windows 8. I don't have to give a reason. I talk with my wallet.

    If Microsoft wants people's money, they need to give people what they want.
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  10. #210


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    If Microsoft wants people's money, they need to give people what they want.
    OK. That's fair enough.

    There isn't much choice for many people. Most can't afford a mac, even if they want one. They have to get a machine with windows on it.

    That is why MS will sell about 320m pc's in a 12 month period. It doesn't matter what the o/s is like. They will sell that many by default.
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