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I have yet to meet anyone in person who actually likes it

  1. #191


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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Also, I don't have to use google to figure out how to log off my machine.. That was an embarrassment when I was working with a client, and I had to google how to log off..
    As an IT professional you should of been embarrassed, embarrassed that you didn't try ALT-F4 from the desktop or CTRL-ALT-DEL from anywhere to log off.

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  2. #192


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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 Bit


    I am pretty much always up for trying something new. I don't hate metro, and welcome it and the app store to my windows desktop. I have yet to find an app in the app store that I use on even a weekly basis, but I am hoping that will improve in time. In the mean time, I love the new task manager, the built in iso mounting, the new file copy graph and graphics... Storage spaces is a very interesting idea that I have yet to make use of. These are all nice things.

    I still have yet to meet anyone in person that had anything good to say about windows 8. I believe this fact would have been completely the opposite, had they done one small thing different and enabled users some choices.

    PS.. live tiles as a concept has some potential, but I still wonder who has time to sit and stare at their tiles, waiting for some tidbit of useful information to appear on them. I would rather have big, bright, beautiful icons that clearly show me what app they are a link to on my start screen. I have tried making them with some program, but they just are not the same...
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  3. #193


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I am pretty much always up for trying something new. I don't hate metro, and welcome it and the app store to my windows desktop. I have yet to find an app in the app store that I use on even a weekly basis, but I am hoping that will improve in time. In the mean time, I love the new task manager, the built in iso mounting, the new file copy graph and graphics... Storage spaces is a very interesting idea that I have yet to make use of. These are all nice things.

    I still have yet to meet anyone in person that had anything good to say about windows 8. I believe this fact would have been completely the opposite, had they done one small thing different and enabled users some choices.

    PS.. live tiles as a concept has some potential, but I still wonder who has time to sit and stare at their tiles, waiting for some tidbit of useful information to appear on them. I would rather have big, bright, beautiful icons that clearly show me what app they are a link to on my start screen. I have tried making them with some program, but they just are not the same...
    You'd need a desire for what app you want to use on a weekly basis. I for example, use a few news reader apps over the website version. Less clutter, no advertising in my face. Also, Music Info is what I use for music playback. The glitches need fixing though, but apparently the VLC media team is working on a Windows 8 app to launch within a few months.

    If you compare the concept of live tiles and feeding new information in one screen, versus a Desktop with five different open windows; what will take more time to view?
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  4. #194


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    If you compare the concept of live tiles and feeding new information in one screen, versus a Desktop with five different open windows; what will take more time to view?

    IMO, the 5 open windows will provide info quicker. Even if you clicked each one individually, you are bound to get way more important information faster using the 5 windows than you will with live tiles. Live tiles have some merit. For instance, as a whether app icon that shows you the whether. There is a single useful piece of information, that is a useful addition to the icon, and I can make use of at a glance. Reading email on my icon? no thanks, that would take forever. (maybe show me the 3 most recent people to email me.) In any case, when the rest of your program icons turn into a white box with a tiny icon in the corner, they hardly become worth it..
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  5. #195


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    Windows Phone 6, Windows CE 5, Windows Vista x32, Windows 7 x32/x64, Windows 8 x64


    I've been trying to come to grips with Windows 8 for two months now and it just doesn't work (for me at least). My main gripe is still the lack of functionality of the tiles screen. While the tiles can be active, you can't select just a few and have them enlarged and arranged on a second screen as general information while you work on the desktop doing actual work. You are completely limited in what you can do with the tiles and it's absolutely clear that no consideration was given to desktop users when it was designed.

    Also, why is it necessary to sign in to a Microsoft account to even use some of the tiles, like the calendar? I want information under my control and not to be subjugated by another entity. Most of today's youth don't seem to care one jot about what and to whom they give information, but I'm not of that generation.
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  6. #196


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by R0bR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Also, I don't have to use google to figure out how to log off my machine.. That was an embarrassment when I was working with a client, and I had to google how to log off..
    As an IT professional you should of been embarrassed, embarrassed that you didn't try ALT-F4 from the desktop or CTRL-ALT-DEL from anywhere to log off.
    Or, you know, the paradigm that almost all the major email apps now use (gmail, Hotmail, yahoo, etc..) to click on the username in the start page and choose log off. I mean, almost all users who use the internet know this.
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  7. #197


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Also, why is it necessary to sign in to a Microsoft account to even use some of the tiles, like the calendar? I want information under my control and not to be subjugated by another entity. Most of today's youth don't seem to care one jot about what and to whom they give information, but I'm not of that generation.
    The calendar is tied to your Microsoft account calendar. Most people want to use a single calendar, and want to be able to access it from multiple devices.
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  8. #198


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    The calendar is tied to your Microsoft account calendar. Most people want to use a single calendar, and want to be able to access it from multiple devices.
    I'm not sure about that (most people). You can sync everything at one place and when out and about, you only need to access that one device, which can then be synced later on with your other devices if it's been updated. Corporate users can already connect to their user accounts remotely, to access just the one calendar and it won't be a Microsoft account.
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  9. #199


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I'm not sure about that (most people). You can sync everything at one place and when out and about, you only need to access that one device, which can then be synced later on with your other devices if it's been updated. Corporate users can already connect to their user accounts remotely, to access just the one calendar and it won't be a Microsoft account.
    Microsoft expects if you want corporate calendar and mail functionality, you'll install outlook, or whatever enterprise client your company uses. The apps that come with Windows have always been consumer functionality, so this argument is kind of odd, given the historical context.

    Nowadays, people have multiple devices. A work/school/home computer, a phone, a tablet, a media player (that often has limited mail and calendar functionality), etc.. Look at the iPhone, which now by default syncs your calendar with your desktop mac via iCloud. This is the way things are going, and what people are expecting.

    Everyone wants cloud syncing functionality, so to pretend that this is bizarre behavior is also.. odd.
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  10. #200


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    I didn't say anywhere that it was bizarre behaviour, merely that one is being forced to use cloud services if you want to use the calendar function. I use Outlook exclusively, but many were happy with the light version as well.

    But that's only one minor issue; whereas, you ignored the main gripe that I have with Windows 8. And that is what I believe is the main complaint of the vast majority of users who find Windows 8 a retrograde step. The OS in itself is clearly improved, but the user interface, as far as desktop users are concerned, is deeply flawed.

    We have yet to hear much, if anything, from Windows 8 Pro tablet users regarding their experiences. Mine was unsatisfying. Defend the user interface as much as you like, but it is flawed and destined to failure unless Microsoft listens to those complaints, however minor, and is prepared to address those complaints. You can keep shooting the messengers, but eventually the message will get through.
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