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I have yet to meet anyone in person who actually likes it

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Wow, do you and I know different people then...
    It's seems quite plausible that the OP does know different people and that their experiences are different to yours. The world can be quite amazing in that respect. You either accept the post as being true, or call the OP a liar.
    Yeah, I know, I'm being light and cheery...

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  2. #12


    "My point in posting the thread though, is that I have yet to talk with anyone who likes it."

    "Like" is the operative word. using competenty, and with ease, can be another matter. I do not have a touch screen so use the mouse pointing method, not a great deal of difference on speed, when it come down to it. I did try nout the various third party Start menus. Eventually, I reorganised the "Metro" with my frequently used programs and discarded the third party offerings. I find the Windows key gets me to the Metro/start menu quicker than through a start orb - programs, sequence.
    But, I do find, to my eye, the icons rather ugly, but 100% usable. So, like (visually) big no. Like (for functionality) No problems.
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  3. #13


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    OH! I just remembered when I was making myself a spot of tea, I had a Windows 8 To Go drive with the Consumer Preview I used at work. I do data entry work in the records department at the local hospital, and I got it working with the rest of the system and used it everyday at work. I work with about 12 other people in my department and others in other departments, and they were tripping out at seeing the Start Screen. Most were like, "What?!" Others were like, "Whoa, this is cool." I let some people use it and showed them how to use it during some downtime at night. Most that were iffy about that used it, they liked it once they got used to how it's used (I use the Charms bar HEAVILY with both my Touch Mouse and with the mouse pointer, that's how I show how to use Windows 8).

    I guess the total is about 43 people I've exposed Windows 8 to. Overwhelmingly positive experiences.
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  4. #14


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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    It is vastly different in function. I am not sure how you can say that. I used the vanilla OS for about 2 months after launch, and only in the last 3 days installed classic shell. I really wanted to like it as vanilla,because I really wanted to see the sense behind it. For my part, I like it so much more with the start button back, and given that this is true for me I cannot see the start screen as an improvement. With a touch monitor maybe I would feel differently. Without touch, it is just tedious. The live tiles have yet to show me anything remotely useful to make them somehow better than just plain icons. I honestly think MS was just trying to be different, and shot themselves in the foot here. Time will tell...
    It's not vastly different in the least. File Explorer (windows explorer in 7), the file icon on the taskbar, takes care of any file exploring needs, just like in 7. The shortcuts to those folders (such as libraries, computer, your user folder) in the start menu in 7 were redundant.

    7: Open the start menu and click All Programs. Scroll down and select the folder you want. click the program.
    8: Open the start screen. Click All Apps. Scroll to the program you want. Click program.

    7: You can pin programs to the start menu in 7 for quick access.
    8: You can pin programs to the start screen for quick access.

    7: Open the start menu and type to search.
    8: Open the start screen and type to search.

    7: Need to get to the Control Panel? Click the start button and click on Control Panel
    8: Right-click bottom left corner (start window), select Control Panel. (in fact, many power user items are in that menu)

    The only real difference is that 8 doesn't have a menu that has your most used programs automatically listed, which is a redundant (though nice) feature since you should have those programs pinned anyway.

    The interface is different, but the function is basically the same. People are making it more difficult than it has to be. You may not like the look or how it's full screen. That's your opinion. It doesn't change that it is mostly the same in function and is about as snappy.

    As for the option of having a start menu, sure. I also think there should be an option for Aero. I don't think the start menu is needed anymore, but I can see why others may feel differently and it's a good thing that third party programs are available. I really don't think people should disable Metro though. They should at least try to get used to it because I have serious doubts MS is going back to the classic start menu. It also has its benefits. For instance, many apps are just nifty. The Sports app is useful if you follow any sports. The Music app is cool because you can search for bands and listen to a number of different songs over the net (yes there are many programs for this, but it's still nifty).
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    That's it then, 43 out of 43 people in a records dept, when shown Windows 8 liked it; ergo, world + dog likes Windows 8. Case closed.
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  6. #16


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    That's it then, 43 out of 43 people in a records dept, when shown Windows 8 liked it; ergo, world + dog likes Windows 8. Case closed.
    I suppose since the Topic Creator here has never met one person who likes 8, everyone and their grandma must hate it with fury. Case closed. Works both ways. There are going to be negative and positive responses. Not surprising. He says he's seen positive responses, so I guess he should be met with sarcasm?
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  7. #17


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    The problem is that there's too much polarisation. From a personal point of view, Windows 8 does what it was designed to do. That said, it could have done things much better and I've given clear examples of areas where I feel that it falls short.

    No one has responded to the shortfalls that I've identified with any sort of comprehensive reply. And I've been using Windows 8 since I was able to purchase it and I stand by my observations.

    I've owned no other OS since DOS, so it's not as if I'm a troll coming from another camp to bag Windows. However, if long term Windows users are ragged for expressing their views, then rabid fanboyism has finally reached the Windows camp.
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  8. #18


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    The problem is that there's too much polarisation. From a personal point of view, Windows 8 does what it was designed to do. That said, it could have done things much better and I've given clear examples of areas where I feel that it falls short.

    No one has responded to the shortfalls that I've identified with any sort of comprehensive reply. And I've been using Windows 8 since I was able to purchase it and I stand by my observations.

    I've owned no other OS since DOS, so it's not as if I'm a troll coming from another camp to bag Windows. However, if long term Windows users are ragged for expressing their views, then rabid fanboyism has finally reached the Windows camp.
    Or if it may be kind of difficult to move away from a traditional Windows Desktop workflow to a non-traditional workflow...
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  9. #19


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    The problem is that there's too much polarisation. From a personal point of view, Windows 8 does what it was designed to do. That said, it could have done things much better and I've given clear examples of areas where I feel that it falls short.

    No one has responded to the shortfalls that I've identified with any sort of comprehensive reply. And I've been using Windows 8 since I was able to purchase it and I stand by my observations.

    I've owned no other OS since DOS, so it's not as if I'm a troll coming from another camp to bag Windows. However, if long term Windows users are ragged for expressing their views, then rabid fanboyism has finally reached the Windows camp.
    Okay, what shortfalls are you referring to? No one is saying that you're a troll. You're clearly not in one of those groups that annoy me. Groups such as the blind bashers who have no idea what they're talking about. Pretty much up there with the people who still blindly bash Vista as if it was the plague of operating systems. Opinions may differ here, but I don't believe you're in that category (or most people here). I think a lot of the issue here is aesthetics. Obviously, opinion on that is going to be even greater since opinion on what it looks like is entirely subjective. Some think it's an ugly mess, others think it looks spiffy. If you recall, I do agree with you about some of the things you brought up (such as the limitation of open apps in Metro and how they can't be resized).
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    I hope that some, by not responding to points raised and merely replying with what are in effect insults, are not attempting to incite unseemly responses that would lead to a ban, and thus end constructive debate.
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