This was supposed to be an upgrade?

I am thoroughly disappointed with Windows 8, I thought this was supposed to be an upgrade from previous Windows products.

• My computer start up time is SLOWER than when I used Windows 7. I used to start up in around 5-7 seconds, now I have to wait around 10-12. (Yes, I updated all of my drivers)
• For the most part, application start up and run at around the same time as Windows 7, but none have I seen have start up or run times faster than that of Windows 7. My iTunes used to be instant the second I clicked it, it would come up. Now I have to wait around 7 seconds for it to come up. Regardless of whether this is Windows' fault or if it is Apple's, this should not happen with a Windows Performance Score of 8.0.
• Tons of bugs. I know this OS is fairly new, but wow, I have had times where I had to shutdown my computer because it was unresponsive after installing a new application or even closing an app from the Windows Store.
• Devices? Can't find any of my devices, lol. (I have 3 plugged in)
• This new start button sucks. It is horribly placed. I am a person who likes to keep their desktop clean and keep away from the clutter of having every application shortcut on my home screen. This means that I use the start button a LOT. The idea of placing links in the corners wouldn't be a bad idea if there weren't buttons already in the corner.
  • Top left corner: Not bad, nothing there to accidently click besides maybe the back button on a brower.
  • Bottom left: Not too bad either except sometimes I accidently open up one of the applications pinned on the task bar.
  • Top right: Horrible placement. I guess Windows forgot that people use applications in desktop mode (because Metro just doesn't cut it for the average user) and that those applications have a little red "x" button there and that closes the application. Bad design indeed.
  • Bottom right: Not as bad as the top left, but there is another button there that is a prime function of the desktop view, the desktop button. I guess since they couldn't find any other corners to put the start menu in, they had to place them in the two worst possible corners they could think of.
• Graphics design: Bland, boring, and flat. Definitely a downgrade from Windows 7, catering to people who buy $200 Toshiba laptops. Need I say more?
• You must make a Windows account to log onto your own computer. Who the hell wants to make an account with Microsoft just to be able to log into their computer? It is completely unnecessary and completely ridiculous that Microsoft would have to go to this far as to make a consumer make an account with a company to log into their computer. This is the stupidest idea for marketing I have EVER seen.

The only thing you will get me on as far as liking Windows 8 is strangely the live tiles system. I thought it would be kinda ehh, but it turns out the live tiles apps are pretty cool, and the designers made them look really nice.

Other than that, I am going back to Windows 7 and there is no way I am coming back to Windows 8. I don't know how this could be passed off as a professional operating system. Not only is it complicated for the non-savvy consumer, but also unnecessarily complicated for the average computer knowledgeable person. Windows 7 did the job and it did the job right.

moneybagman said:

I am thoroughly disappointed with Windows 8, I thought this was supposed to be an upgrade from previous Windows products.

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It's not an upgrade; it's a new version -- and like all new versions of OSs, it adds features and removes features.

[*]My computer start up time is SLOWER than when I used Windows 7. I used to start up in around 5-7 seconds, now I have to wait around 10-12. (Yes, I updated all of my drivers)

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Mine's not slower, but it's not faster, either.

[*]Tons of bugs. I this OS is fairly new, but wow, I have had times where I had to shutdown my computer because it was unresponsive after installing a new application or even closing an app from the Windows Store.

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Typical history of new OS versions. It generally takes a Service Pack before the major bugs are worked out.

Devices? Can't find any of my devices, lol. (I have 3 plugged in)

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Finds all of mine ... would be best to tell us which devices, and which models, it does not find.

This new start button sucks. It is horribly placed. I am a person who likes to keep their desktop clean and keep away from the clutter of having every application shortcut on my home screen. This means that I use the start button a LOT. The idea of placing links in the corners wouldn't be a bad idea if there weren't buttons already in the corner.

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WHAT Start Button -- there is none anymore, unless you add one -- which I have done using Start8 -- and it works much like Win7 did.

Graphics design: Bland, boring, and flat. Definitely a downgrade from Windows 7, catering to people who buy $200 Toshiba laptops. Need I say more?

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MS did this to cater to folks who want their PCs to look like their smart phones -- not a decision I support.

You must make a Windows account to log onto your own computer.

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NO, you don't -- if you install it yourself. Don't know about prebuilt Win8 PCs as I don't have the money to buy one.

Who the hell wants to make an account with Microsoft just to be able to log into their computer? It is completely unnecessary and completely ridiculous that Microsoft would have to go to this far as to make a consumer make an account with a company to log into their computer. This is the stupidest idea for marketing I have EVER seen.

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Agree ... but this is all part of the new "cloud" obsession -- which MS, like Canonical (with Ubuntu) is shoving down our throats.

The only thing you will get me on as far as liking Windows 8 is strangely the live tiles system. I thought it would be kinda ehh, but it turns out the live tiles apps are pretty cool, and the designers made them look really nice.

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Yeah -- they're nice, but not a lot different from the old "gadgets" which, in many cases, could do similar things.

Other than that, I am going back to Windows 7 and there is no way I am coming back to Windows 8. I don't know how this could be passed off as a professional operating system. Not only is it complicated for the non-savvy consumer, but also unnecessarily complicated for the average computer knowledgeable person. Windows 7 did the job and it did the job right.

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You should look into installing one of the new Start menu replacement apps. There is a thread here listing them. Some, you can try for free. Once you boot into the Desktop by default and get a Start menu back, you may find that it's not a lot different from Win7 -- and since you already paid for it, why just throw your money away?

You can and definitely should make a local account. ALWAYS. You should be able to do it on any win8 PC.

Wow do you have a video of a Windows 7 PC booting in 7 seconds? I would like to see that.

jbfoster said:

Wow do you have a video of a Windows 7 PC booting in 7 seconds? I would like to see that.

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Me, too. My laptop is no bolt of lightning, but it takes Windows 7 up to 38 seconds to boot to a login screen, then another 25 seconds to login and be able to click a program on the task bar.

mbratch said:

jbfoster said:

Wow do you have a video of a Windows 7 PC booting in 7 seconds? I would like to see that.

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Me, too. My laptop is no bolt of lightning, but it takes Windows 7 up to 38 seconds to boot to a login screen, then another 25 seconds to login and be able to click a program on the task bar.

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Get a decent SSD.The best upgrade too speed up a computer

You must make a Windows account to log onto your own computer. Who the hell wants to make an account with Microsoft just to be able to log into their computer? It is completely unnecessary and completely ridiculous that Microsoft would have to go to this far as to make a consumer make an account with a company to log into their computer. This is the stupidest idea for marketing I have EVER seen.

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I also agree that this is a stupid idea. I should not be forced to create an unwanted account just to have access to my own computer. And as for the "cloud" I could care less for it. This and many other reasons keep me using windows 7.

You can create a local Windows account like in previous versions if you don't want to use an online Microsoft account.

You need the account to access the Store.

You don't need the store though, especially if you don't bother with "not-metro".

moneybagman said:

Tons of bugs. I know this OS is fairly new, but wow, I have had times where I had to shutdown my computer because it was unresponsive after installing a new application or even closing an app from the Windows Store.

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Did you do an upgrade install. You may need to start over with a clean install assuming you have an appropriate medium (e.g., an install disc).