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Problem adding new Windows 8 to existing Workgroup

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by jjsmoke62 View Post
    I have a home network set up by geeksquad. They have set up a filesharing where the public drive is on my only PC with a Vista Operating sys. They have a WORKGROUP called WORKGROUP. I connect everything else wirelessly. Have 2 Windows 7 Home laptops connected. A shared printer is also connected.

    I now have a new laptop with Windows 8 and just want to add it in. I named the Homegroup WORKGROUP and I can see the other computers when I click on network, but I can't access them. When I click on the other computers especially the Vista PC with the public drive, it asks for a network user ID and password. I tried everything I can think of and it keeps telling me password invalid.

    So my new laptopwith Windows 8 has yet to be added to the filesharing and printer sharing. Any ideas?
    Homegroups or the Homegroup name doesn't need any adjustments at all, it's name is not meant to be changed and has nothing to do with Workgroups but I'm sure you were just confused with that statement.

    The Workgroup is a completely different method for sharing and is the old standard. Both sharing methods can work together on the same network so there is absolutely no reason to disable Homegroups.

    You only need to ensure that all machines are using the same Workgroup name. This requires no adjustments in the Homegroup settings. The default Workgroup name for Windows 8 is already Workgroup so no changes will be required.

    Workgroup Name - View and Change - Windows 7 Forums

    After that you can just set up the sharing permissions by using the sharing and security tabs which you can access by right clicking the C drive or a network folder and choosing properties. After that just make the appropriate adjustments through the sharing and security tabs.

    This is same old standard NTFS permissions which has been around a long time. You do need to make sure that the time/date settings on your networked machines are all in sync and set correctly or you might get those invalid password prompts.

    If you have any problems getting those settings to work then most likely you need to set up your anti virus or third party firewall to allow sharing.

    You can also set up a Homegroup between the Windows 7 and 8 machines, both types of sharing use different methods to share files.

    The good thing about using Homegroups is that you can add folders or files from other drives to a particular Library and they will all appear in the same place rather than having to map drives or view folders which are spread out over many different drives. This is a very convenient feature needless to say and it's a shame that many users have no idea what it's used for.
    Last edited by chev65; 10 Dec 2012 at 20:32.

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  2. #12


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    @chev65
    What you said is true if you only have Windows 7 and Windows 8 environment. A lot of people are having their home network set up using XP, Vista, W7, W8 and in addition, XBOX, Tivo, Media Player, etc.... Then using WORKGROUP for home networking is better solution.
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  3. #13


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    Hi Topgun,

    it might help, but here computers are never shut down, restart happens when MS does updates that need a restart.

    but even then it does not happen, it only happens at a given moment.

    But i will wait until this happens again and flush the DNS to see what happen.

    Anyway, rebooting i already did without result, but will retry this also and let you know.

    The last 2 days everything is alright.

    You might be right, because it makes sense.

    thanks

    Jeff
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    DNS is a critical component in networking.

    Any device or application using DNS will usually have its own cache: the router has a DNS cache, Windows has a DNS cache, and web browsers each have a DNS cache.

    ipconfig /flushdns only refreshes your PC dns cache so if the problem still exists after running ipconfig /flushdns then you might want to reset your router is the next step.
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  5. #15


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    ok Topgun,

    but i wait until the next time this problem occurs. Took a print of your previous reply and did put it on my desk.

    I must add: have a modem, router AND switch connected. Could be the switch, which is used to speed up the internal network.

    Jeff
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    @Jeffrys,
    I have pretty much the same setup as you. With my main PC, Laser Printer, NetTalk VOIP connected to the back of the router, The last port on the router hooked up to an 8-port switch which hard-wired to every room in the house. In addition, I also have a NETGEAR XAV1004 Powerline for extra connection. The only wireless devices I have connected to the LAN are my Iphone and IPAD.
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  7. #17


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    Workgroup/Homegroup problems


    Hi Lazure,

    a quick question regarding your advice to configure Win8 machine to run Workgroup.
    How is this achieved please?
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  8. #18


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    Hi Chev65,

    I've tried all of this, but I still get the annoying, and impossible to work, Password Request!!
    Both computer clocks are sync'ed, but still my Vista desktop can't access my Win8 Laptop!
    Any ideas please?

    Best Regards
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  9. #19


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    Worked for Me


    Topgun's 10 Dec 2012 post worked for me.

    I'm adding a new Windows 8 desktop to an established XP network and it's my first experience with Windows 8.

    I anticipate spending more time refining the setup, but for now am just trying to transfer user document and other data files in to the new machine and get set up to run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Civilguy View Post
    Topgun's 10 Dec 2012 post worked for me.

    I'm adding a new Windows 8 desktop to an established XP network and it's my first experience with Windows 8.

    I anticipate spending more time refining the setup, but for now am just trying to transfer user document and other data files in to the new machine and get set up to run.
    Alright... Thanks for reporting back. For a detail step by step, you can also take a look at my recent post:
    All computers on the same network, each cant see others
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