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I believe Win 8 is going to be another Windows Vista

  1. #291


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    One also needs to remember that this was fully 1 year before the start of the worst financial crisis since the great depression, which we still have not fully climbed out of. So duh. Yeah. Also, the article talks about percentage of PC's... The total number of PC's is a lot larger today than it was in 2007. That means it takes more PC's sold to equal the same percentage. So it's a double whammy. As they say, there lies, damn lies, and statistics.
    And also because Vista was the first new OS after 5 years with XP. So the demand for a new OS was big. And Vista's UI was also, let's admit it, more beautiful than XP. So, many poeple upgraded or bought new PCs.
    By contrast After W7 the demand for a new OS is almost nihl.

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  2. #292


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    Windows 8 Pro


    As far as Windows 8 goes, the underlying OS is a slight improvement over 7. And I mean slight. We are talking about the same difference between Win98 and Win98SE here. It is basically the same thing.

    The new UI is hideously awful though. But, if you install a start button replacement, like Classic Shell, Start8, or Startisback, and make it look and act like Win7, the OS itself is perfectly fine.
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  3. #293



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    4 Windows 7 Pro Sp1- 4 Win 8 Pro, 1- xp pro sp3


    I purchased a win 8 pro laptop with minimum specs so I could teach it and show it to my clients and at the seminars I do. Interesting while making this laptop I had an interesting talk with my dell rep. I have a long term relationship with him given I sell between 30 to 40 per year. I basically only sell dell computers because the stand by their machines and I have been using them for over 20 yrs, but I am getting off track a bit. He mostly only sells business computers. He told me dell is having a very hard time selling windows 8 pro to business clients. Companies take one look at it and run the other way. For home use it is very popular and they have no problems on that side. If you go to their site you will still see windows 7 as an the first option, windows 8 is way down below it.
    I have windows 8 pro on 2 upgraded desktops and an older vostro 1500 laptop
    The only thing I like about win8 is the faster boot up and shutdown. Otherwise I still like windows 7 over it. I do not like that Microsoft did not put in the start menu in the desktop app, the apps most do not load or crash, many are stupid.
    I have an iPad 2 that I am typing to you right now and the apps are more superior then Microsoft apps and they do not crash as much
    There are too many steps to do in windows 8 to find utilities and even programs
    None of my business clients want it and I cannot even talk them into it with a clear conscience
    On the other hand my home user clients think it is awesome, well they only suf the Internet, play games, do emails, that is about it
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  4. #294


    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    On the other hand my home user clients think it is awesome, well they only suf the Internet, play games, do emails, that is about it
    it's why Google should push their Chromium OS, many , many peoples don't need a PC with a desktop, they just need a browser. A build in ARM motherboard in a monitor with a wireless mouse and keyboard, a $ 200 PC, and Chromium, this is all they need.
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  5. #295


    Another story about Windows 8 not good for Microsoft.

    Fujitsu to miss sales target due to 'weak' Windows 8 demand | Microsoft - CNET News
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  6. #296


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    Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows XP


    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    He told me dell is having a very hard time selling windows 8 pro to business clients. Companies take one look at it and run the other way. For home use it is very popular and they have no problems on that side.

    None of my business clients want it and I cannot even talk them into it with a clear conscience
    I can see Windows 8 being a tough sell for businesses until Windows 8 becomes the norm(Or until everyone forgets the start menu). A lot of people are afraid of change and some people don't wish to learn anything new. They want what they are familiar and comfortable with, and will often dismiss new products because of that. I was in this category until today. I was afraid I would hate it because of the negative reviews and it looked complicated compared to the classic start menu.

    I can't speak on the multitasking front for Windows 8, as I haven't tried it yet. This will be a huge factor in the success of 8. Is it faster than 7? The same? Too much trouble? Easier to use? That one question regarding multitasking can be a deciding factor. The career field I'm going into is based around multitasking and information processing, so an OS that is efficient with multitasking is crucial.

    Once people finally make the cross over and get use to a OS without a classic start menu, I believe Windows 8 business sales will increase. Time plays a big factor here. In order for time to play a factor, Microsoft will need to continue on the current route of no start menu and not give in and bring it back. Businesses will eventually adapt or switch to a different OS. If you gotta learn a new OS anyways, might as well stick with brands that you're familiar with.


    I suppose we'll see soon enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by robinb9 View Post
    There are too many steps to do in windows 8 to find utilities and even programs
    It would appear so at first glance, but you can just type any program you want like you would in the search bar of the start menu on Windows 7. Go to start menu screen and type. It pretty much works the same except you do it from the start screen.
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  7. #297


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    W8


    I been a Windows user since DOS, through every iteration of Windows and a beta tester of W98. Currently use Wy on most of my systems. I agree, W8 is another Vista. To emphasize many other posts, why didn't M'soft create a start button. Secondly, it takes my a great deal of wasted time to bump against the right margin of mu screen to get the charms. What idiot designed this? Other issues exist that i won't bother you with except to say, regarding the touch screen concept: it is a marketing ploy by M'Sof tto almost force users to purchase new systems. M'Soft will go down the tubes in industrial users. Likely shift to Apple [which I may do in the future.]
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  8. #298


    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue8 View Post

    I can see Windows 8 being a tough sell for businesses
    LOl, he just use it for an hour an now he is an expert, lol
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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    On the other hand my home user clients think it is awesome, well they only suf the Internet, play games, do emails, that is about it
    Yes, it is fine for those folks.

    Why do they bother with a proper machine at all - they can do that stuff on their phones.
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  10. #300


    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    On the other hand my home user clients think it is awesome, well they only suf the Internet, play games, do emails, that is about it
    Yes, it is fine for those folks.

    Why do they bother with a proper machine at all - they can do that stuff on their phones.
    There phones would hit data caps. lol
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