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Im having major problems with my desktop pc and am looking for further guidance. I'm on my second mb for example and problem still persists. Where might be the best place to post my issues in an effort to gain assitance?

Bruce
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3
    Memory
    8gb Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD6850 1GB
Bruce,

Can you outline the problems you are having. This would help those who can give you some assistance. Just saying you are having a problem doesn't give anyone an idea what is happening with your system. Thanks.:D
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8, (VM win7, XP, Vista)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion p1423w
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 3330 Ivy Bridge
    Motherboard
    Foxconn - 2ADA Ivy Brige
    Memory
    16 GB 1066MHz DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 5450
    Sound Card
    HD Realteck (Onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Mitsubishi LED TV/Montior HD, Dell 23 HD, Hanspree 25" HD
    Screen Resolution
    Mit. 1980-1080, Dell 2048-115, Hanspree 1920-10802
    Hard Drives
    1 SanDisk 240Gig SSD, 2 Samsung 512Gig SSDs
    Case
    Tower
    Cooling
    Original (Fans)
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Keyboard 2000
    Mouse
    Microsoft Optical Mouse 5000
    Internet Speed
    1.3 (350 to 1024 if lucky)
    Browser
    Firefox 19.1
    Antivirus
    MSE-Defender
Im having major problems with my desktop pc and am looking for further guidance. I'm on my second mb for example and problem still persists. Where might be the best place to post my issues in an effort to gain assitance?
Bruce
Go to the site of your PC manufacturer or mobo manufacturer. Contact their customer support or use their forums and other online help/support if available.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner
I ended up posting on tomshardware as i thought perhaps discussing hardware related issues was not appropriate at eightforums. Anyone interested in my problem pls look here and feel free to contribute..
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3
    Memory
    8gb Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD6850 1GB
We do have a section for hardware related problems/issues here. Hardware & Drivers - Windows 8 Forums

If you post there with as much information as possible, then I'm sure we'll be able to point you in the right direction. ;)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 r09/2013
    CPU
    Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.2GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
    Memory
    4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Agility 3 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
    Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
    Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
    Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
    WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
    PSU
    XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
    Case
    Gigabyte IF233
    Cooling
    1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
    Mouse
    Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
    Internet Speed
    NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/sec (O2)
    Browser
    IE 11
    Antivirus
    Avast! 8.0.1497 MalwareBytes 1.75.0.1300
    Other Info
    Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
    Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
    WEI Score: 8.1/8.1/8.5/8.5/8.25
    Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
I read your post from Tom's hardware and you said sometimes it took a long time to get thru the BIOS post. When you first turn your PC on, it's going thru the post process trying to identify what hardware you have in your system. I had this problem in the past that it took a long time going thru post, it turned out that one of my hard disk was corrupted so I would think something is not right,
now we have to isolate which one causing it.

So, first you do what the guy told you, configure your system to bare minimum, ie. 1 dvd, 1 hd, memory, keyboard and mouse.
But before you do this, take out the memory and clean the contact real good and when putting back in, jiggle a little bit to make sure they make good contact, I also would replace the Sata cables for the DVD and the HD to eliminate the cause of a bad cable, sometimes we over look the little things like that.

If all is good, try to install Windows 8, right after you click "INSTALL NOW", then click on Custom Install, in the next screen, click on "Drive Option(Advanced)", hi-light each partition then Click "Delete", Next you want to create a New Partition, Click on "New", Windows installation will tell you it will create a 350MB reserved partition also then click Next to install.

After the installation and if the problem still persist, then the next thing I would do is get a copy of Memetest86+, it is a DOS version of memtest, you have to burn it to a cd then boot to run it to check out if your memory has any bad spots on it. Trust me, if your memory stick has any bad spot, it will cause Windows a lot of problems because you know before running any programs, The system must first load that program into RAM before running it and if it happens to run your system program then it will crash.

There is nothing magic about computer, and believe me if you take your PC to the shop, this is what they would do.

Well, good luck with your trouble shooting
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
    Internet Speed
    35/12mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
Took the pc to the shop this morning, he got straight to work opening him up and trying a boot up with his own hdd running win 8. Everything was fine, he did a stress test and quite quickly it fell over. Can u imagine the relief i felt, at least it was happening here in his shop and not just with me at my place with my hdds. (i did also mention at tomshardware that it falls oever even without any hdd connected :S
now i told him that once it falls over once it will do it again much sooner, and lo behold it did, to the point it was dying within 10secs.

He even tested my psu and tried another one, still no joy. So i left him withh it and went to work, will be interesting to hear if he had any more luck with it when i call him tomorrow...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3
    Memory
    8gb Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD6850 1GB
I have another thought when you mentioned about the stress test. You know, with stress test, it generates a lot of heat in your CPU and the thermal sensor inside the CPU will shut off your PC once the heat reaches the limit, and sure once it happens and the CPU is still cooling down then you try to reboot again, the heat would rise faster. Make sure your CPU Fan is tightly seated and make good contact with the CPU.

There are some freeware that you can run to monitor your CPU temperature that you can download, google for "Real Temp", run it as soon as Windows starts, if it reaches ~80-100 degrees then your CPU is overheated.

I built many systems and I do a lot of overclocking so I know CPU temperature is very important and what you describe sounds like your CPU is overheated.

If you look at my system spec, I use water for CPU cooling.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
    Internet Speed
    35/12mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
If cpu is overheating from a cold start>win 8 5mins>start stress test and falls over in a matter of seconds into the test, doesnt this point to faulty cpu?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3
    Memory
    8gb Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD6850 1GB
Perhaps so. Have you taken some RAM out, switched between sockets, etc., or tried running it at a slower speed if you can?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner
Did try taking sum ram out, switching sockets, not extenisve testing but enuff to see it didnt make any difference. Not done speed test.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3
    Memory
    8gb Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD6850 1GB
If cpu is overheating from a cold start>win 8 5mins>start stress test and falls over in a matter of seconds into the test, doesnt this point to faulty cpu?
Not necessarily point to faulty CPU, like I said, there is a thermal sensor in the CPU to prevent the CPU from being overheated for an extended period. The CPU will automatically shutdown the system and if you wait for a while when the temperature of the CPU cool down, you will be able to reboot it again.

What we do here is trying to eliminate and identify which piece of hardware that causes the problem.
You said you swapped out the Power supply, different hard disk was used by people at the shop, replaced the MB.
So all that left with the memory and the cables and re-seat the CPU FAN to make sure it makes good contact. The PC will hangs or shutdown or BSOD if your memory is having bad spots and the same will happen if you have a faulty or flaky cable and the CPU is overheated.

Also, it got nothing to do with memory speed test, you have to run the memory test so that each spot on your memory stick will be tested for successful read/write operation.

BTW, if you have more than one memory sticks, are they the same brand ? because if you mix the memory sticks with different manufactures and sometimes they are not compatible in term of timing, it will also cause problem.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
    Internet Speed
    35/12mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
Same brand. I will give the guy a call at the shop today, see how he went on, will keep u posted.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3
    Memory
    8gb Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD6850 1GB
Doesn't your mobo give an clues when something is problematic when you start up? What kind of shop are you taking it to?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner
Nop mb never makes a sound, on either boards i had :S

Got it back yesterday from local pc shop. Long story cut short, first mb was actually faulty, second mb was fine but i did have one bad stick of RAM. The real problem was CPU over heating from serious lack of thermal paste and not quite fully properly inserted heat sink (i think that's what he said). So yeh... when putting old cpu's in new mb's is it advisable to grab some thermal paste and smear some on or summin?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3
    Memory
    8gb Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD6850 1GB
Yep, clean the old paste off and put just the right amount of new on. The tendency for many is to put too much on. A little tends to go a long way. Ideally, you want a very, very thin layer covering virtually the whole of the abutting surfaces. That's not easy to do. Someone nailed that over heating very well could be the problem. Heat builds very quickly particularly with a bad paste job.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Rig; MacBook Pro (MBP)/Parallels/Boot Camp; HP Pavilion dv6500t Laptop
    CPU
    Intel i7-2600K (sometimes OC'd to 4.8 GHz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS P8P67 Deluxe Rev B3
    Memory
    16 GB Corsair Vengeance
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA 570 SC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gateway
    Hard Drives
    Dual Boot:
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on OCZ Revo x2 and
    Win7 Ult RAID 0 on Caviar Black SATA 3's
    PSU
    Cooler Master Silent Pro 1000W
    Case
    Cooler Master 932 HAF
    Cooling
    Zalman CNPS9900MAX-B CPU Fan
    Keyboard
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Mouse
    Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500
    Internet Speed
    20 Mbps Download/2+ Mbps Upload
    Other Info
    Pioneer Blu-ray Burner/DVD Burner
SO what did I tell you in my post ? You could have saved some bucks....
Anyhoo, glad that you got it straighten out.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    8.1x64PWMC Ubuntu14.04x64 MintMate17x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brewed
    CPU
    I7 4970K OC'ed @4.7 GHz
    Motherboard
    MSI-Z97
    Memory
    16 GB G-Skill Trident X @2400MHZ
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTS 450
    Sound Card
    X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dual HP-W2408
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1200
    Hard Drives
    256 GB M2 sm951, (2) 500GB 850EVO, 5TB, 2 TB Seagate
    PSU
    Antec 850W
    Case
    Antec 1200
    Cooling
    Danger Den H20
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance Mouse MX
    Internet Speed
    35/12mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
Yeh by the time u threw yer 2 cents in it was already in shop. I don't mind supporting local business. I never knew about the thermal paste tho, never applied any before, u live and learn.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8 Pro
    CPU
    Intel i5
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte H67N-USB3-B3
    Memory
    8gb Ram
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon HD6850 1GB
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