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Is Start Menu really matter?

  1. #191


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    I haven't said anything here in a long time, BUT going to reiterate that Windows 8 "Start Screen" would be better accustomed to a tablet/slate PC than to a desktop/laptop. I was sent one of these devices to beta test, and give my opinion, and it is clear that Windows 8 rocks on it. BUT wait my Laptop and PC aren't touch screen, and even if they were it would be awkward to press onto their screens. Tablet users will feel perfectly at home on Windows 8.
    Well said Mike.

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  2. #192


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Tablet users will feel perfectly at home on Windows 8.
    Only if the screen resolution meets Microsoft's specification of 1366x768, will Windows 8 work fully. There are/will be many disappointed tablet owners (even with a fairly recent tablet) who will find that the land of milk and honey is only attained by buying a new device. My tablet has now been purged of Windows 8, as there's no point in having it there. I'll keep it on my desktop PC, but the Modern interface is stored in the closet.
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  3. #193


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    Microsoft should work more on start screen and metro . I don't like full screen applications. It would be better if I had sizeable windows on start screen. I don't want window 8 , I like windows 8 .
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  4. #194


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Lonewolf View Post
    Tablet users will feel perfectly at home on Windows 8.
    My tablet has now been purged of Windows 8, as there's no point in having it there. I'll keep it on my desktop PC, but the Modern interface is stored in the closet.
    This is one of the weirdest statements I've read in a while. Windows 8 NOT on a tablet, but on a desktop without the use of the Start Screen.
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  5. #195


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    This is one of the weirdest statements I've read in a while. Windows 8 NOT on a tablet, but on a desktop without the use of the Start Screen.
    If you've followed some of my other posts, you'd know that I was using a Gigabyte S1080 tablet. It has a native resolution of 1024x600, which I can raise to 1024x768, which will run the Modern apps, but not run more than one app at a time. I cannot raise the resolution to 1366x768 so that I can run multiple apps.

    To that end, the modern interface is somewhat redundant and I'm better off with a full desktop environment, which works fine for me at 1024x600. There are also a number of programs that I use with the tablet fairly regularly that do not work well visually at the hacked 1024x768 resolution, so I'm better off with Windows 7.

    If Microsoft had allowed Windows 8 to function fully on lower resolution screens, then it would have be a very elegant solution for many people. Now all they have done is isolated a large contingent of potential users. All Microsoft has to do now is hope that Windows users are as eager to buy a new tablet/notebook/laptop as are Apple users. Time will tell.
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  6. #196


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    This is one of the weirdest statements I've read in a while. Windows 8 NOT on a tablet, but on a desktop without the use of the Start Screen.
    If you've followed some of my other posts, you'd know that I was using a Gigabyte S1080 tablet. It has a native resolution of 1024x600, which I can raise to 1024x768, which will run the Modern apps, but not run more than one app at a time. I cannot raise the resolution to 1366x768 so that I can run multiple apps.

    To that end, the modern interface is somewhat redundant and I'm better off with a full desktop environment, which works fine for me at 1024x600. There are also a number of programs that I use with the tablet fairly regularly that do not work well visually at the hacked 1024x768 resolution, so I'm better off with Windows 7.

    If Microsoft had allowed Windows 8 to function fully on lower resolution screens, then it would have be a very elegant solution for many people. Now all they have done is isolated a large contingent of potential users. All Microsoft has to do now is hope that Windows users are as eager to buy a new tablet/notebook/laptop as are Apple users. Time will tell.

    makes sence, i forced (registry changed) a 1024x768 res on my netbook to get the apps to work but it isn't pretty, so i put it back down simply because the apps are just terrible anyway...

    flame me all you want but i think apps should be left to phones and tablets, i'll take full applications any day of the week over a cut down half assed app that makes my pc fall asleep.
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  7. #197


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    This is one of the weirdest statements I've read in a while. Windows 8 NOT on a tablet, but on a desktop without the use of the Start Screen.
    If you've followed some of my other posts, you'd know that I was using a Gigabyte S1080 tablet. It has a native resolution of 1024x600, which I can raise to 1024x768, which will run the Modern apps, but not run more than one app at a time. I cannot raise the resolution to 1366x768 so that I can run multiple apps.

    To that end, the modern interface is somewhat redundant and I'm better off with a full desktop environment, which works fine for me at 1024x600. There are also a number of programs that I use with the tablet fairly regularly that do not work well visually at the hacked 1024x768 resolution, so I'm better off with Windows 7.

    If Microsoft had allowed Windows 8 to function fully on lower resolution screens, then it would have be a very elegant solution for many people. Now all they have done is isolated a large contingent of potential users. All Microsoft has to do now is hope that Windows users are as eager to buy a new tablet/notebook/laptop as are Apple users. Time will tell.
    I would figure Windows 8 would be better off on the tablet, just get rid of the apps and tile the Start Screen with Desktop apps.

    The decision of a higher resolution doesn't affect a large swath of people, mostly netbook users (which aren't a lot) and people using old monitors or old graphics cards from the xp era and such. If the resolution is enough to run the metro apps, you wouldn't be missing a whole ton, as the app snap isn't too worthwhile in most cases.
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  8. #198


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    [QUOTE=Coke Robot;157279]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I would figure Windows 8 would be better off on the tablet, just get rid of the apps and tile the Start Screen with Desktop apps.

    The decision of a higher resolution doesn't affect a large swath of people, mostly netbook users (which aren't a lot) and people using old monitors or old graphics cards from the xp era and such. If the resolution is enough to run the metro apps, you wouldn't be missing a whole ton, as the app snap isn't too worthwhile in most cases.
    That's not what I found. A lot probably also had to do with the fact that there really weren't any apps that I felt were essential, they were more just eye candy. I'm also one of those people that prefers that start button with pinned links, cascading menus, some links in the taskbar and a minimalist desktop, rather than a screen full of squares.

    There are an awful lot of tablets/notebooks/laptops that are fairly new and don't meet the resolution requirements of Windows 8. That will disappoint many people, especially those that can't afford to just go out an buy something new. I still haven't found a reason why the resolution limitation exists.
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  9. #199


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    [QUOTE=Ray8;157291]
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ray8 View Post
    I would figure Windows 8 would be better off on the tablet, just get rid of the apps and tile the Start Screen with Desktop apps.

    The decision of a higher resolution doesn't affect a large swath of people, mostly netbook users (which aren't a lot) and people using old monitors or old graphics cards from the xp era and such. If the resolution is enough to run the metro apps, you wouldn't be missing a whole ton, as the app snap isn't too worthwhile in most cases.
    That's not what I found. A lot probably also had to do with the fact that there really weren't any apps that I felt were essential, they were more just eye candy. I'm also one of those people that prefers that start button with pinned links, cascading menus, some links in the taskbar and a minimalist desktop, rather than a screen full of squares.

    There are an awful lot of tablets/notebooks/laptops that are fairly new and don't meet the resolution requirements of Windows 8. That will disappoint many people, especially those that can't afford to just go out an buy something new. I still haven't found a reason why the resolution limitation exists.
    That's a little strange to me, as using a start menu with touch isn't too great, Taskbar yes, but start menu needs a stylus to navigate a little better with, along with the smaller UI controls in the Taskbar. That can be customized, but still.

    There aren't any new Windows 8 PCs being built under the recommended specs, or otherwise it wouldn't be a Windows 8 certified PC, it'd just be a Windows 7 certified PC that doesn't meet a resolution spec.
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    Ah, but my tablet has a thumb mouse built in and I often use a wireless mouse with the case keyboard. I'm not into social networking and the like whatsoever, so my tablet isn't used for facebook, twitter, instagram and whatever else drives today's generation. My tablet is effectively a business tool.

    There may not be any many new ones being built at lower specs, but there are plenty around already, as well as older stock that don't meet the specs. Yet again, I can't find one reason why Windows 8 Modern interface wasn't made to work with any screen resolution.
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