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Is Start Menu really matter?

  1. #141


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    This is one of the problems with this industry....people find things that look like that, beautiful
    I know. How disgusting, useless, offensive, unintuitive, jarring, awkward, repugnant, difficult, ugly, not fit for purpose.

    This is much, much, much, much, much, much, better
    I love sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, nesting

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    Yes, comparing it to the 2001 rendition of the start menu is the right way to go. You should give the PR department at MS a call. - might be a job waiting for you.

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  2. #142


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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    This is one of the problems with this industry....people find things that look like that, beautiful
    I know. How disgusting, useless, offensive, unintuitive, jarring, awkward, repugnant, difficult, ugly, ... etc
    not fit for purpose.

    This is much, much, much, much, much, much, better
    I love sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, nesting

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    To be fair, the commonly accessed programs, in equivalence to your Win8 Start screen scenario, would have been pinned to the start menu so you wouldn't have to do the deep dive. The deep dive is there to get to "anything" you have. It ain't pretty in Win8 to get to "just anything" either. Both Windows 7 and Windows 8 do offer the ability to do a quick search, which is nice. But it's not unique to Windows 8. Really the only difference in Windows 8 is that you're pinning them to a whole screen instead of a click menu, in this particular example.
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  3. #143


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by mbratch View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    This is one of the problems with this industry....people find things that look like that, beautiful
    I know. How disgusting, useless, offensive, unintuitive, jarring, awkward, repugnant, difficult, ugly, ... etc
    not fit for purpose.

    This is much, much, much, much, much, much, better
    I love sub, sub, sub, sub, sub, nesting

    Attachment 12485
    To be fair, the commonly accessed programs, in equivalence to your Win8 Start screen scenario, would have been pinned to the start menu so you wouldn't have to do the deep dive. The deep dive is there to get to "anything" you have. It ain't pretty in Win8 to get to "just anything" either. Both Windows 7 and Windows 8 do offer the ability to do a quick search, which is nice. But it's not unique to Windows 8. Really the only difference in Windows 8 is that you're pinning them to a whole screen instead of a click menu, in this particular example.
    He knows damn well that people even in XP wouldn't use a Start Menu like that for the same every day programs he has tied to his start screen. He's simply one of the Win8 mouthpieces here that can't see it from both sides.
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  4. #144


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    The future of Windows.

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  5. #145


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    Win 7 / Win 8


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    The future of Windows.

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    Ah... someone who actually knows how to multitask.
    If it gets too confusing for you, there's a little "X" or "_" in the upper right hand corner you can click to get rid of some of those. Pretty simple. One click.
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  6. #146


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    Quote Originally Posted by mbratch View Post
    ....in the upper right hand corner you can click to get rid of some of those. Pretty simple. One click.
    I say the same thing about multitasking in 8.
    Upper right hand corner... hmmm... lower left hand corner... scroll the start menu...
    find the nested sub, sub, sub link... move to middle, left upper and click X, move to lower bottom right, click X, move back to bottom left and click the sub, sub, sub, level...

    resize that window... move the window... minimize the window... reopen the window... close the window...
    maximize the window... Find the icon on the desktop... Find the icon on the taskbar...
    Find the icon on the start menu... What's the difference...
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  7. #147


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    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    The future of Windows.

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    Since none of the things you have open there are Metro apps, with the exception of IE - I fail to see your point. If you had all those open at the same time in Win8 Desktop it would look the same. Strike three.
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  8. #148


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    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    Since none of the things you have open there are Metro apps, with the exception of IE
    This is not about metro apps. It is about does the start menu really matter...

    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    I fail to see your point
    Exactly.


    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    If you had all those open at the same time in Win8 Desktop it would look the same
    The future of Windows picture is the Windows 8 desktop.
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  9. #149


    Posts : 76
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    Since none of the things you have open there are Metro apps, with the exception of IE
    This is not about metro apps. It is about does the start menu really matter...

    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    I fail to see your point
    Exactly.


    Quote Originally Posted by symbiont View Post
    If you had all those open at the same time in Win8 Desktop it would look the same
    The future of Windows picture is the Windows 8 desktop.
    Ok, so a desktop picture of open windows has what to do with if the Start Menu matters?!? That's what I thought.
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  10. #150


    Webster NY US
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    Win 7 / Win 8


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    This is not about metro apps. It is about does the start menu really matter...
    OK but your pic of all those open apps had nothing to do with start menu.

    Back to the start menu, I can see how under most circumstances the Metro UI start screen serves the same purpose as a desktop start menu. The only difference being visual. But the start menu on the desktop does more than that: it gives you links for control panel, file system, computer, network, etc. So I like it for that. Is there an equivalent on the Metro Start screen? I know there are some Administrative apps that can be run from there, but does the other items?
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