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OK ... That's ENOUGH for now.

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    DeLand, FL
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    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

    OK ... That's ENOUGH for now.


    After using Win8 for about a month, spending the last 3 weeks trying to avoid it I've re-imaged my machine back to Win7. Generally speaking "8" was working OK but I've been accumulating little problems and finally decided this morning that I just have better things to do.

    - Metro is pretty useless on a desktop machine. It works OK but the most I was doing with it was playing the Solitaire game.
    - I could live with the loss of Aero and had gotten the desktop back to the way I want it using Start8. However:
    - Neither of my photo printers work under Windows 8. I was having to go use another machine on the network for this. Not a huge deal (none of these points are) but I do all my photography from this machine. I'd like to use the printer sitting 18 inches away from this machine without having to copy photos to the network and go print from somewhere else.
    - Metro is useless. My machine is on the desktop all the time.
    - The font system in the desktop is a bit screwed up. Another minor one but my favorite font in Visual Studio doesn't work anymore.
    - Metro is useless.
    - Having trouble synchronizing my eWallets with my iPhone and iPad devices. Finally worked that out but I'm concerned with the flakiness of it.
    - Metro is useless.
    - My MSDN help system keeps coming up with linkage errors when trying to look things up. This never happened in Win7 Ultimate.
    - Metro is useless.
    - Oh oh ... the connection between this machine and my machine down at the office keeps timing out if I type more than 10 keystrokes at one time. Have tried updating drivers, etc. No go. This was the straw.
    - Oh yeah ... Metro is useless.

    If you've followed my posts on the board I have gone from outright hate of Win8 as I watched it develop to finally installing it live on my machine to, now, finally throwing up my hands and realizing that it just doesn't provide me any additional value and is forcing me to make compromises in my system's performance.

    There are a handful of things about the Win8 desktop I do like - like File Explorer. It's got a few new features I like, however I've got Explorer++ that does all that in the Win7 desktop so that one is negated. Beyond that I can't sit here and honestly tell anyone that Win8 adds anything to a desktop system. Sorry ... I just can't. It's been fun playing with it but now I need to go get some work done on my product development. I can't afford to waste any more time with this.

    -Max

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    You forgot one point, and I'm surprised in an otherwise thorough review. Here it is: Metro is useless. :-)

    On another thread someone pointed out something called "Exp7ForW8", which actually pulls the Windows 7 Explorer off the installation disc and sticks it into Win8. It also completely bypasses Metro - doesn't even load it. I am going to give it a try when I get a chance...
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    Win7 Ult on DIY; Win8 Pro on MBP/Parallels; Win7 Ult on MBP/Boot Camp; Win7 Ult/Win8 Pro on HP


    How did you feel about Metro on your desktop machine? I feel generally the same as you about Win8, but I am having fun learning more about it primarily so I'll have the ability to talk about it somewhat intelligently and can advise and help family, friends, and forumies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgage View Post
    You forgot one point, and I'm surprised in an otherwise thorough review. Here it is: Metro is useless. :-)

    On another thread someone pointed out something called "Exp7ForW8", which actually pulls the Windows 7 Explorer off the installation disc and sticks it into Win8. It also completely bypasses Metro - doesn't even load it. I am going to give it a try when I get a chance...
    That would be useful for sure at least if, for example, one is concerned about eventually losing support of Win7. I may end up in that position of my desktop machine(s) one day. Otherwise, I don't think Win8 offers me anything of great significance beyond Win7 except the ability to play around with Metro.
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    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    How did you feel about Metro on your desktop machine? I feel generally the same as you about Win8, but I am having fun learning more about it primarily so I'll have the ability to talk about it somewhat intelligently and can advise and help family, friends, and forumies.
    Having the Metro there didn't really bother me, I didn't mind it. The main problem with it was that I just didn't find it useful for anything. More than anything else I found myself going into one or two Metro apps "because they were there" but not because I needed them for anything. If I wasn't having the compatibility problems I listed I probably would have left it on here. However I just got tired of making excuses for it when my Win7 installations don't need any excuses: they just work.

    Win8 really isn't bad at all. I think that once some time passes the issues with the drivers and things will get settled down but I don't want to continue to Beta test it. I normally don't move that fast to upgrade but this time I had the time to do it. I really wanted it to be OK and it was ... almost.

    -Max
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #6


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sgage View Post
    You forgot one point, and I'm surprised in an otherwise thorough review. Here it is: Metro is useless. :-)

    On another thread someone pointed out something called "Exp7ForW8", which actually pulls the Windows 7 Explorer off the installation disc and sticks it into Win8. It also completely bypasses Metro - doesn't even load it. I am going to give it a try when I get a chance...
    That would be useful for sure at least if, for example, one is concerned about eventually losing support of Win7. I may end up in that position of my desktop machine(s) one day. Otherwise, I don't think Win8 offers me anything of great significance beyond Win7 except the ability to play around with Metro.
    That's just my point. I don't feel like "playing" with it any more. I have a product I'm trying to finish building and this was becoming a distraction.

    -Max
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  7. #7

    I ain't gonna eat out my heart anymore...


    As quirky as Metro is, and I fully agree, it's useless, I have to say I've been enjoying my upgrades to Win 8. My Win 7 machines were starting to act a bit funky (probably just needed a start-from-scratch re-install). So far Win 8 has been working fine for me, faster, no weird Explorer crashes and such.

    However, Max, if I was having the problems you described , I would very likely have junked it as well.
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    @Max Peck: I agree with what you say in both of your posts. I tired to make Win8 more like Win7 without using third party software. No big deal, but if interested, then go here. At the time, I didn't know about toggling between Desktop and Metro using the Windows key and using Windows+i to bring up the "Power" button for shutdown, etc. Using both of these options eliminated additional Metro pain.
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    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Hogtowner View Post
    As quirky as Metro is, and I fully agree, it's useless, I have to say I've been enjoying my upgrades to Win 8. My Win 7 machines were starting to act a bit funky (probably just needed a start-from-scratch re-install). So far Win 8 has been working fine for me, faster, no weird Explorer crashes and such.

    However, Max, if I was having the problems you described , I would very likely have junked it as well.
    Yeah. The O/S is OK. Was fun to play with but I've let this kind of thing distract me before. I've given the thing a good run. Until and unless it offers something that will enhance my ability to get my work done I'm just going to have to set it aside. It was just dead-ending on me. I don't want to develop to Metro. All my mobile devices are iPhones and iPads and I develop to the desktop. Like I said ... I'd at-least have kept it on this machine had I not been having those issues - it's a nice system, but I had to get pragmatic about it and realize it just ain't solving any problems for me. Oh well. Maybe someday when I have absolutely nothing better to do.

    -Max
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #10


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    @Max Peck: I agree with what you say in both of your posts. I tired to make Win8 more like Win7 without using third party software. No big deal, but if interested, then go here. At the time, I didn't know about toggling between Desktop and Metro using the Windows key and using Windows+i to bring up the "Power" button for shutdown, etc. Using both of these options eliminated additional Metro pain.
    Metro, itself, wasn't even the problem. From that aspect everything was running fine. It was some of the finer points - that font going away, inability to access that printer and, more seriously, the inability to stay connected with my machine at the office without going through a reconnect cycle every 2 minutes. All relatively minor things that would probably be fixed eventually but they just added up.

    -Max
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

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