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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Agreed! It's like some declared war over split milk. The Start Screen is more or less like a new Desktop that can be loaded with dozens of tiles, much like the Desktop was once used to load dozens of icons.
    Maybe I haven't spent enough time with the various tiles. Some of them are OK, but, in general, using them seems to be burdensome (or they are trivial). My prime example is trying to use IE under the Metro style. Please enlighten me on how to use IE effective under this style constraint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Agreed! It's like some declared war over split milk. The Start Screen is more or less like a new Desktop that can be loaded with dozens of tiles, much like the Desktop was once used to load dozens of icons.
    Maybe I haven't spent enough time with the various tiles. Some of them are OK, but, in general, using them seems to be burdensome (or they are trivial). My prime example is trying to use IE under the Metro style. Please enlighten me on how to use IE effective under this style constraint.
    I'm guessing you might have Flash issues or rendering issues with metro IE. I'd just stick to using the Desktop version if the metro one gives you bothers.

    First, go open the Desktop version of IE, you can do that with the little tool icon within metro IE when you right click. Then, open the Desktop IE's settings, which is a little cog wheel like thing. Hit Internet Options, a window will open up, from there hit Programs, and hit Open Internet Explorer tiles on the desktop. Change how IE opens links to open in the desktop.

    I've personally seen a friend use their Start Screen more or less as a Most Frequently Used list of the start menu from 7. She uses jumplists though so about half of what would be on Start isn't there like Libraries. Actually, if you hit up the link in my signature, it not only gives suggestions and tips on how to install Windows 8, but there is a section that speaks of how to customize it as well. Part of which that is on there, is pinning Desktop items to Start. I for one use this quite often, and it baffles me that Microsoft didn't put these Desktop tiles there, but oh well. To pin things to Start, you will need to be in the Desktop. Find something like a Library, folder, hard drive, or even a Control Panel item; then right click and hit Pin to Start. A new tile appears of which you can move around and group and such.
    Post your Start Screen!
    This as PAGES of different people's Start Screen. It really matters on how YOU want things to work. I for example, use Start as my main launcher, don't have anything pinned on the Taskbar anymore. So I have everything I need on my Start Screen, from Libraries to data recovery tools and Office, with apps of course.

    And the apps that come preinstalled with Windows are ok, they seem to be more or less replacements for gadgets. Bing Weather is the main app I've seen used across a few different friend's Windows 8 PCs. There are some good ones out there, some will need more tweaking and development. Remember, the Windows Store just went official just a couple of months ago, so it won't be vast and perfect.
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    Ha, "Spilled milk", a funny choice of words, and it fits well! When the argument is weather spilled milk is a good thing or not and now that it's been spilled we'll just get used to it and even how licking it off the table is just as good or better than drinking it from the glass used to be then yes, there are valid "arguments" to be made.

    Much like the disaster that was the Kin, MS /could still/ backtrack on it's forced inclusion and make metro and the desktop live together as one like t should have been to start with rather than fighting back and forth. As long as there is that hope, people should voice their honest opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    It is very inefficient and unergonomic for mouse users.

    Start menu is vastly superior for that.

    You don't get the choice, because the start screen carries the bloatware, adware, and exhortations to go online to MS.
    Spoken by someone who has never had a problem with hand-eye coordination, or poor motor reflex skills. Menus can be difficult to use even if you have good skills. I can't count the number of times I've had to start over when traversing a multi-level menu because I moved off of it, or a window popped up while I was navigating.

    In fact, menus are probably the WORST ergonomic feature of previous versions of Windows.

    There is simply no valid argument that you can make about the start menu ergonomically. I don't care how bad you might think the Start Page is ergonomically, it's always going to be better than a menu. Always. They are terrible usability. You may find them more convenient for you, but this is *NOT* an ergonomic argument. Particularly when talking about anyone with a disability.
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    It is kind of funny I really don't miss the old GUI at all now, the first two three days though ugh lol ..... that was a different story, but with a little reading like me on this forum, and implementing the techniques you learn Windows 8 should feel like home and work better for you at least it did for me 0;^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I'm guessing you might have Flash issues or rendering issues with metro IE. I'd just stick to using the Desktop version if the metro one gives you bothers.

    First, go open the Desktop version of IE, you can do that with the little tool icon within metro IE when you right click. Then, open the Desktop IE's settings, which is a little cog wheel like thing. Hit Internet Options, a window will open up, from there hit Programs, and hit Open Internet Explorer tiles on the desktop. Change how IE opens links to open in the desktop.
    Thanks much for the reply. This all seems strange. Originally, when I would click on IE on the Metro Start Menu, it presumably would open in Metro. One thing for sure is that it didn't open in the desktop version. Then, when I would go to the desktop and open IE, it would open in the desktop version. Now, it opens in the desktop version wherever I open it. And, I am unable to revert in Internet Options to the Metro version. I did nothing to cause the change AFAIK. The only potentially relevant change I made was installing Chrome and making it my default browser.
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    Flyout menus.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Flyout menus.....
    If you were replying to me, note that I had to revise what I said in my last post.
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    Start 8 from Stardock is the best $5 I ever spent.
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  10. #20


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    Quote Originally Posted by znod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    I'm guessing you might have Flash issues or rendering issues with metro IE. I'd just stick to using the Desktop version if the metro one gives you bothers.

    First, go open the Desktop version of IE, you can do that with the little tool icon within metro IE when you right click. Then, open the Desktop IE's settings, which is a little cog wheel like thing. Hit Internet Options, a window will open up, from there hit Programs, and hit Open Internet Explorer tiles on the desktop. Change how IE opens links to open in the desktop.
    Thanks much for the reply. This all seems strange. Originally, when I would click on IE on the Metro Start Menu, it presumably would open in Metro. One thing for sure is that it didn't open in the desktop version. Then, when I would go to the desktop and open IE, it would open in the desktop version. Now, it opens in the desktop version wherever I open it. And, I am unable to revert in Internet Options to the Metro version. I did nothing to cause the change AFAIK. The only potentially relevant change I made was installing Chrome and making it my default browser.
    I think I've read that changing browser defaults screws with IE a bit, that could the issue.
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