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Will Microsoft restore Start Menu to Windows 8?

  1. #41


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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kmint View Post
    B

    And I am still using W8 Release ....

    So now I have the best of both 7 and 8. Fast as 8, nice, easy and logical as 7.
    Ya but your "best" will come to an end soon with the Preview
    I hope that by then, Aero Glass will be around in some sort of patch, hack or program.

    In any case, I will problably move on sooner or later. But Aero Glass in Windows 7 made of Windows a beautiful swan when Windows was an ugly ducklin since it was born. I don't know why they have removed something so successful and accepted, not leaving it as an option.

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  2. #42


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Hi there
    can someone please explain the Developers logic of designing something like Live Tiles and then give the user no way of viewing these on a desktop -- for example if I'm working on a spread sheet or a presentation document it would be quite nice to have the Stocks tile updating on the desktop. - It's totally USELESS updating this stuff in the background.

    I can't believe these developers didn't get a chance to speak with some USERS before this stuff was let out of the door. Most development usually involves "The business" and the developers -- as far as Windows is concerned we the normal users are "The business" in this case.

    I'm currently only testing W8 because I have a TechNet W8 enterprise -- the only really useful feature I've found is "Windows to Go" where you can add some applications and it's a good recovery tool since you can add backup / restore programs, partition managers, etc and booting via a USB3 port makes it perfectly acceptably fast anyway -- and if you are doing a recovery this really isn't an issue in any case.

    There used to be a decent "Quasi legal" windows system which did this type of stuff known as Hiren's CD - I think this piece of software is now not legal any more due to proprietary products being included in it -- but the Windows to go is 100% LEGAL and works fine.

    For my normal work I'm sticking with W7 -- if you tune it up a bit and switch off things like Hibernation W7 can run just as good as W8.

    Cheers
    jimbo

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  3. #43


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    can someone please explain the Developers logic of designing something like Live Tiles and then give the user no way of viewing these on a desktop -- for example if I'm working on a spread sheet or a presentation document it would be quite nice to have the Stocks tile updating on the desktop. - It's totally USELESS updating this stuff in the background.

    I can't believe these developers didn't get a chance to speak with some USERS before this stuff was let out of the door. Most development usually involves "The business" and the developers -- as far as Windows is concerned we the normal users are "The business" in this case.

    I'm currently only testing W8 because I have a TechNet W8 enterprise -- the only really useful feature I've found is "Windows to Go" where you can add some applications and it's a good recovery tool since you can add backup / restore programs, partition managers, etc and booting via a USB3 port makes it perfectly acceptably fast anyway -- and if you are doing a recovery this really isn't an issue in any case.

    There used to be a decent "Quasi legal" windows system which did this type of stuff known as Hiren's CD - I think this piece of software is now not legal any more due to proprietary products being included in it -- but the Windows to go is 100% LEGAL and works fine.

    For my normal work I'm sticking with W7 -- if you tune it up a bit and switch off things like Hibernation W7 can run just as good as W8.

    Cheers
    jimbo

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Snap the Finance app next to your spreadsheet. Or, unless if you ABSOLUTELY need to be seeing updated info every second of the day, just hit the Start key from time to time and see if there are new updates. Then hit Start back to the Desktop.
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  4. #44


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    COKE why you refuse the reality, Metro Start Page , should run on a floating window and re sizable. They fire Sinofsky because it was a bad idea.
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  5. #45


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    COKE why you refuse the reality, Metro Start Page , should run on a floating window and re sizable. They fire Sinofsky because it was a bad idea.
    Sounds logic.

    I use Win8, works great but sorry if I'm offending with this:
    METRO forces the removal of Desktop. Otherwise all tiles should run seamlessly on the two.

    That's what you can see yourself by using Win8 and then reading Jimbo's first lines of post:
    can someone please explain the Developers logic of designing something like Live Tiles and then give the user no way of viewing these on a desktop -- for example if I'm working on a spread sheet or a presentation document it would be quite nice to have the Stocks tile updating on the desktop. - It's totally USELESS updating this stuff in the background.
    That's the way it goes.

    You can look it the other way around if you like : Desktop forces the removal of METRO.
    The switch between the two is a canyon: it's easier to stay on one side or the other, why jump in between?
    Honestly I do all my work on the Desktop. I consider the tiles as art, decorating screen real-estate. I like them this way, and they can stay there in my opinion. The start screen is full of desktop apps anyway.

    Why is the OS called Windows? because you can use resizable (+ minimize, maximize) windows on the screen. Or at least that was the thing initially.
    With Metro, we seem to be running on OS called Walls. And it seems that fortress walls are not close to what the windows were.
    We'll just have to use what we like best.

    If the switch between Desktop and Metro becomes smaller, Then we can keep Metro and I'll be in favor of it.
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  6. #46


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    With Metro, we seem to be running on OS called Walls.
    lol, this make my day
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  7. #47


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    With Metro, we seem to be running on OS called Walls.
    lol, this make my day

    Think about it:
    If we're allowed to place some windows on those walls, then the place will be filled (with light) and everybody will be happy.

    Backwards compatibility, at least optional because too much people complain.
    That's all.
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  8. #48


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    NO worry "help is on the way" as Bush said..... Balmer is already working on the presentation of the Surface replacement

    The Balnux

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  9. #49


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Voice command may reach maturity very soon also.
    That will make life in a cubicle farm really interesting with everyone yelling at their computer. Even if everyone is wearing a headset, the murmur will be as obnoxious as in customer service call center.
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  10. #50


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    NO worry "help is on the way" as Bush said..... Balmer is already working on the presentation of the Surface replacement

    The Balnux

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    Who comes up with this stuff, it's hilarious.
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