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Will Microsoft restore Start Menu to Windows 8?

  1. #31


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Yes, and Microsoft thinks there are lots more people like you as well, which is why they want a single unified OS that has the same interface on all devices, and runs the same apps on all devices. That's entirely the point.
    Unfortunately, some of us don't find the new interface particular useful or efficient on a desktop. Without a touchscreen, many of these UI changes are just not intuitive. And why not put in an OPTION for those of us who would use Windows 8 strictly on non-touchscreen desktop to just not display the Start Screen and instead show a start menu. This would really have resolved many complaints. Thus, if you wanted everything the same go with the default, and if you wanted it different you could have that too.

    Microsoft hasn't gotten any money from me on this release of the OS, I'm sticking with Windows 7. I've used my MSDN copy on a couple of testing machines and have a VM setup for testing software problems that are reported at my company, but that's all I plan to use at present. Even for a modest $39 I cannot be persuaded to upgrade. I don't view it as a technical step forward.


    Windows 8 seems to just be half baked in lots of areas. It has some advantages, no doubt about it. But then it's got things that are lacking, functionality that doesn't work as expected (like fact that Sharing feature won't share pics to Facebook that come from local folders...but it does work from Skydrive). How to share photos to facebook?

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  2. #32


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Have you played around with the new tablet PCs running Windows 8? I know you seem to try out different devices, I'm simply wondering, and ask since using touch with Windows is actually phenomenal. Some things need improvement, like on the Desktop, but overall is just impressive.
    No, I have not played with Windows 8 on a tablet PC.
    1). I don't care for tablets, I don't like touchscreens. Even on my new Galaxy S3, I miss my physical slide out keyboard from my Droid 2. I'm dealing with it because I like many other facets of the GS3...but I don't prefer it.
    2). I'm not going to spend $500-$1000 on a Microsoft tablet to try it out. It's simply too expensive of a learning experience. In this price arena, I'm inclined to stay with a full featured full blown PC or laptop. Thus far, the $250 Samsung Chromebook has been the best alternative for me personally to a laptop for web consumption and content creation.
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  3. #33


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    For now I'm using Classic start menu, not for the menu but for remove the hot spot. I don't need a new menu the start page do the job in my case. So I have to unnecessary mod my OS just to disable something I don't need.
    Then...why not simply use the Start Screen and put the start menu items on it? [/QUOTE]

    I'm using the Start Page, I install it to remove the hot corner as I always have them in my way when I work and they pop up.
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  4. #34


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    I was so sick of Metro, Charms and Corners that returned to Windows 7. Then I remembered that I have an old laptop and that Windows 8 runs much better and faster, so I returned to Windows 8.

    But I purchased Start8 and got the old menu back. It is not perfect but it is good enough, with good customization. I even made my own cool Start button. I also disabled the %&%$&%$ charms bar and corners.

    And I am still using W8 Release Preview because I like Aero and dislike the new all-flat and claustrophobic Windows 8 final.

    So now I have the best of both 7 and 8. Fast as 8, nice, easy and logical as 7.

    I used Metro Start Menu for many months, so I was used to it and I was very open and early adopter, but it is just absurd after some time when you have too many applications installed. It is just crazy. Even organizing in folders is difficult and complicated. You want to keep the main apps in the first screen, but it becomes impossible and soon you see yourself doing the most stupid idea in computers ever; scrolling horizontally from a minimal scroll bar at the bottom everytime you need to open something not frequent.

    Horizontal scrolling is so absurd. Microsoft just wanted to have a cool design, own personality, and made the classic idea of the poor designers trying to be modern and cool; doing the opposite of normal, which is the opposite of a good idea for some reason.

    The All-Programs menu is just a joke. It will show very single file in those installation folders, so you have hundreds of totally useless files shown in the Start Menu. Try to find the program you want to open in that massive amount of irrelevant icons. It's easier to find Wally than the icon you need.

    No matters how we could try to accept or explain it, those ideas in Windows 8 are unacceptable, absolutely wrong and annoying, a waste of time and a nerves cracker.

    Windows 8 with the new tweaks is fine. Else is too irritating and absurd.
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  5. #35


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    I agree with kmint. The new interface isn't easy to use. Full screen metro applications are annoying. I installed start8 and got back start menu.


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  6. #36


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    Quote Originally Posted by kmint View Post
    I used Metro Start Menu for many months, so I was used to it and I was very open and early adopter, but it is just absurd after some time when you have too many applications installed. It is just crazy. Even organizing in folders is difficult and complicated. You want to keep the main apps in the first screen, but it becomes impossible and soon you see yourself doing the most stupid idea in computers ever; scrolling horizontally from a minimal scroll bar at the bottom everytime you need to open something not frequent.
    You appear to do everything the hard way. You can use your mouses scroll wheel to easily scroll through the start page. I find it much easier, however, to just open the start menu and start typing the first couple of letters and the app is right there. Takes half a second to find anything you are looking for, no matter how many apps you have installed.

    Further, you can group programs in the start menu however you want. You only need to go to All Programs when you need something that isn't on the main start page.

    I really don't see the issue with whether or not scrolling is horizontal or vertical. Why is this such a huge issue? It works the same either way.
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  7. #37


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    Quote Originally Posted by kmint View Post
    B

    And I am still using W8 Release ....

    So now I have the best of both 7 and 8. Fast as 8, nice, easy and logical as 7.
    Ya but your "best" will come to an end soon with the Preview
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  8. #38


    Microsoft seems so tablet-obsessed with Windows 8 and think they are missing the big picture... Microsoft is so focused on the tablet story that it makes me a little concerned about how Microsoft will make the PC as big as possible." Bob O'Donnell, an analyst at IDC, noted that Microsoft has been selling software used in tablets and slates for 10 years with limited success. IDC said only about 1.4 million Windows-based tablets, slates and convertible laptops were sold in 2010. By comparison, IDC recently revised its forecast for 2011 to say that there will be 63 million media tablets sold in 2011, with nearly 70% of them iPads.

    O'Donnell said he recognizes that tablets are in fashion, but that Microsoft's long-term future is going to be more dependent upon laptops and desktops. "At the end of the day, the question remains what device are you going to use to get your work done, and the answer is almost always the PC desktop or laptop," O'Donnell said. "If Microsoft wants the biggest audience, it will be with devices that have keyboards and mice, with touch second."

    O'Donnell predicted that in 2015, Microsoft will still be a small player with tablets, behind Android and iOS. He said it is somewhat ironic that the Samsung Series 7 Slate that was given to 5,000 developers at Microsoft's Build conference this week is almost always depicted with an attachable keyboard in Samsung photographs. - PC Advisor
    Clearly even top analyst's are sceptical on Microsoft's Windows 8 and market strategy, it's my view that Microsoft will in the end have to get rid of this bloody nonsense they have bolted onto our desktop windows, it's not even a success on their mobile devices, how could a company of this size, have got things so badly wrong!!............

    Read more: Will tablet developers rush to Windows 8? - PC Advisor
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  9. #39


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    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    ....... how could a company of this size, have got things so badly wrong!!............
    Because they trust the vision of only 1 guy and they don't listen other than this same guy "Sinofsky", I get this since a year, Balmer was to stupid to see it come, and also Bill Gates don't even care anymore. We can say a lot of bad thing about Steve Jobs ( and I did) , but at least he leave is vision until the end, not like Bill Gates ( I never tough I will say that one day of Steve Jobs)
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  10. #40


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kmint View Post
    I used Metro Start Menu for many months, so I was used to it and I was very open and early adopter, but it is just absurd after some time when you have too many applications installed. It is just crazy. Even organizing in folders is difficult and complicated. You want to keep the main apps in the first screen, but it becomes impossible and soon you see yourself doing the most stupid idea in computers ever; scrolling horizontally from a minimal scroll bar at the bottom everytime you need to open something not frequent.
    You appear to do everything the hard way. You can use your mouses scroll wheel to easily scroll through the start page. I find it much easier, however, to just open the start menu and start typing the first couple of letters and the app is right there. Takes half a second to find anything you are looking for, no matter how many apps you have installed.

    Further, you can group programs in the start menu however you want. You only need to go to All Programs when you need something that isn't on the main start page.

    I really don't see the issue with whether or not scrolling is horizontal or vertical. Why is this such a huge issue? It works the same either way.
    I don't use a mouse, only the touchpad. I mean I NEVER use a mouse, only when I do some graphic design and need high accuracy. So I have no scroll wheel. Microsoft (and most designers) forget that lots of people don't use a mouse now a days.

    Still, I consider that whole Metro design a terrible fail. I tell you that I liked it somehow, because I like new things, and it was a refreshing change for a Start Menu. But in time when I had too many apps in a 15" laptop, it was a mess, a waste of time...
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