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Is Windows 8 a failure ? Time to say bye, bye MSFT ?

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    Is Windows 8 a failure ? Time to say bye, bye MSFT ?


    There are different opinions on Windows 8 present and future success.

    EightForums is the biggest forum for Windows 8.
    After 2 weeks of official Windows 8 launch to general public we see a decline in visits to the forum and the most visited Windows forum is still SevenForums.

    Will Windows 7 dominate the PC market for at least one to two years from now ?
    There are also many people still using XP who are not willing to change OS.

    Big organizations will move eventually later but this move will be not sooner than one to two years from now.

    And if there are not enough customers for Windows 8 in the next few months all the effort bringing
    Windows 8 to public could create a financial disaster for Microsoft.

    I am not sure Win8 will have success on tablets, phones and other smaller devices.
    Android seems to dominate this market and many predict bright future for it.

    So what ?
    No good predictions for PC market, no future on tablets and phones, is it time to say bye, bye Microsoft ?

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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Note,,,some will accuse me to bashing again, but it is not, I use Microsoft product since 30 years, I always been a big supporter of them, not only with word but with money too, as I never accept to install a pirated MS Os in a customers PC, contrary to 80% of the competition around me.

    But this time I agree Microsoft fail to deliver, this One fit all Device OS was death sentenced before even born. Will have been an easy fix, with all the resource MS have, it will have been easy to make a Desktop version without the charm menu and the hot corner for those who don't want go touchscreen. No Balmer and Sinofsky decide we will get use to it.
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    It'll take some time I think. It has only been out for three weeks, It took me at least 6 months to upgrade to 7. Once we get the buyers for the Holidays, and into next year when a Windows 7 PC can't be bought. I do think W7 will be around a long time, but I don't think W8 will completly flop. Many companies are still changing over to 7 and there are some folks that don't make a move on a new OS till after the first service pack is released. Android is going to be hard to catch simply because it is open source, and there are hundreds of hardware manufactuers making phone and tablets. I also think once the pro version of the surface comes out, it will change the game a bit. I mean an intel based tablet that can run regular desktop programs!! It'll be an IT dream, no more laptops to lug around. This is my opinion of course, so take it for what's it worth.

    Geeve
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    Quote Originally Posted by geeve420 View Post
    ........ when a Windows 7 PC can't be bought.
    Geeve

    ah ah, you get it ... peoples will not get Windows 8 because they like it more, they will get it because it's the only choice they will have on large surface like Best Buy and Online Manufacturer like Dell
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    Never been to Heaven......
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    Oh yes, I know the game they are playing! soon it'll all be pushed to "the cloud" that's when I will go Linux with local storage only. I still have several unused 7 keys in case I get a system in to repair that the people hate 8. I am one that actually like the way 8 does things, but different strokes for different folks you know!?

    Geeve

    Edit: I will say this though, I don't get upset with Ford because I can't buy a brand new 1966 mustang. So I don't see much point in being upset with MS for pushing people to their new product. For that matter, Windows is not the only OS, we cannot forget the Fruit company or Linux. If people get that upset about W8, they will seek other options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geeve420 View Post
    . So I don't see much point in being upset with MS for pushing people to their new product.
    let see it this way, you have a company with 8 computers, your employees is use to Windows 7 and Office 2010. They want to purchase a new PC in a year, no Windows 7 available, it's sucks to not have uniformity , I wonder if it's not something that can bring MS legally in trouble. A class action or even another step in from the Gov. I don't think morally, especially if you have the monopoly , you can remove a product from the market and impose something very different to your loyal customers. Think outside the box like Robot will say, MS is more than a simple product, this is use by mostly every business in the world . Why do you think they always delay the end of support of XP....

    With the economy in US and Europe going so bad, I'm not sure it's the time to impose something to small companies that nearly survive.
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    Never been to Heaven......
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    That's just it, they are not a monopoly, there are options. You wouldn't get far in court at all.

    As far as uniforimty goes, you are right, that sucks, but you can't expect everything to stay the same. It sucks and that is all that can be said. Stay with 7 or buy a copy from elsewhere or buy a used PC from CL or Ebay. There are just as many folks that like 8 as there are that don't. If you don't like it or want unifomity between work and home start planning now, cause it isn't going to change from this point on.

    Geeve
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    Buy a use pc on Ebay ? ...come one I sell only new PC to my customer, I'm not a scrap yard. I don't even upgrade old XP PCs to 7, I make them purchase new one, I don't make profit on the sale as they order them from Dell in 90% of the case. Old PC are not productive at all. Aside with customer is not what I like , it's what they like and are willing to pay for.
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    Never been to Heaven......
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    Well, I don't know what to tell you then. I upgrade or downgrade my customers if they want (like you said it is about them, not me). I will also spend a few hours with them to show them the changes and help them through the transition at no extra cost. I do it because the more informed they are, the better for everyone. They can handle stuff on their own and I get the referals. Plus if they need an upgrade or anything else, they know I won't BS them into buying something they don't need. I don't see the reason to force someone to buy a new PC simply because I don't want to tell them they have upgrade/downgrade and hardware options or do the work. Most of the people I do work for know that I won't tell them to buy a new PC or parts unless it is nessasary, and even then I go over options from used to cheap new or custom builds, depends on what they need it for. Old PC's are plenty productive for someone who checks e-mail, plays solitare and checks facebook. You said it yourself, times are tough. I even keep loner systems for them to borrow.

    Look it's obvious you loath W8, good you have an opinion! I am not going to debate with you about opinions anymore, they are alot like @$^ holes, evryone has one and they all stink..
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    Quote Originally Posted by boyans View Post
    There are different opinions on Windows 8 present and future success.

    EightForums is the biggest forum for Windows 8.
    After 2 weeks of official Windows 8 launch to general public we see a decline in visits to the forum and the most visited Windows forum is still SevenForums.
    I totally disagree. The metro UI , to me anyway, is completely sexy and incredible, and I totally favor it to the boring by comparison, windows 7 UI.

    Maybe its the artist in me that loves the whole experience, but Im so glad Microsoft made Metro , but I think it appeals to others too because its so dynamic

    I wish I had a touch screen, as that would be pure nirvana, but I just have a 24" display.

    I love how Windows 8 mirrors WP7, and now WP8, and I think its a simple matter that windows 8 is JUST NOW on the market, as is WP8.

    People don't switch to a new OS, immediately

    I'ts new, just as one day a while ago, Apples new OS was new, and many were outraged!

    I fell in love with WP7, being SO glad I could get away from those boring & outdated icons on android and apple, and I still use my WP7 and absolutely love it, always have, and I look fwd to getting a WP8 device

    I also think the new IE10 is awesome, in that it allows you to surf with entire screen, with all toolbars invisible, and a simple right click to bring up tabs, etc. I just love it. I love simplicity && function, and Microsoft nailed it! SO many new features in windows 8, and Microsoft is doing a fantastic thing, offering win8 PRO SO cheaply atm. I see zero reason for complaints, as it just takes a little digging into how things work now, and it should be clear to anyone, that they are doing a masterful job of 'uniting' tablets, phones and desktops

    cu
    lee
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