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Is Windows 8 a failure ? Time to say bye, bye MSFT ?

  1. #61


    well. as someone who dumped windoze 7 years ago, I recently came back to win 7, because OSX is really nothing like it has been over the years; Apple wants their OS to be just like their mobile OS, and I for one did not like it at all..
    Win 7 has been impressive to me, and, now, with the onset of win 8, I am waiting for my new dell xps one 27 with a touch screen and win 8 baked in to arrive this week; I can understand peoples fear and concern about changing a pretty perfect OS like Win 7, but, back in the days of Win 3.1, people freaked out when win 95 came out too...
    My only point is that the computer world has always moved when Microsoft does, and win 8 wont be any different...If you dont like it, stick with win 7, but for me, change is good, and I cant wait to start using 8..

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    I think maybe one should consider what this is.

    It is a company trying to sell something.

    That company will benefit from selling it, but will you?

    Perhaps looking a teeny bit below the surface is a good idea. Where is it leading - do I really want to be monetarised - is that where I want to be led?

    These comments about you must change - or it is your fault for fearing change are complete hokum.

    It is a product - MS is selling it. Period.
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  3. #63


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    And I will repeat what I said, because you seem to be ignoring it.

    If you don't want to change, then don't upgrade. If you don't want to be "Monitized", then don't upgrade. If you don't want the company to benefit, don't upgrade. If you don't want what the company is selling, don't buy it!

    What is so hard to understand about that? If you don't like it, don't buy it.

    But if you DO upgrade, then don't complain that it's not exactly the same as the old version. That's just pointless.
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  4. #64


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    Quote Originally Posted by wase4711 View Post
    My only point is that the computer world has always moved when Microsoft does, and win 8 wont be any different...If you dont like it, stick with win 7, but for me, change is good, and I cant wait to start using 8..
    This time Microsoft is trying to fallow the way the world go. I will say they panic, because they are (was ? ) out of the market of the tablets and the phones, Microsoft is in crises mode not in leader mode. If some manufacturer will support and force Linux community to come with a more user friendly solution, may be Microsoft will fall on surviving mode, but this not the case, Linux is going no where as for now, but it will not need too much to make thing change, and it will be good to have choices, the product will be better and probably cheaper too. Because between me and you , Microsoft don't make too much effort on the desktop version of Windows 8
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    I would say that Microsoft has gone from Crisis to Leader with Windows 8. Apple has been trying to make OSX more like iOS for several releases now, and they aren't anywhere as close as Microsoft has come.

    In this respect, Microsoft is leading the charge in unified applications. This has been the result of them having a huge amount of catchup to do from Windows Mobile 6.x to their current vision.
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    Are they paying you, or does your blind adoration spring from something else?

    It is a Forum .

    People come here to discuss. It is not an appreciation society.

    It appears that many have not considered what they are buying into. Perhaps the public at large are not in a position to follow what is going on.

    MS are in a position of monopoly power, it is not a free choice.
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    If some manufacturer will support and force Linux community to come with a more user friendly solution, may be Microsoft will fall on surviving mode, but this not the case, Linux is going no where as for now, but it will not need too much to make thing change, and it will be good to have choices, the product will be better and probably cheaper too.
    Yes, if there were viable choices, that would be better for everybody ( except possibly MS ).

    However, the barriers to entry are enormous.
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    I have been waiting for win8 for 5 years..runs great on my touchscreen laptop (HP pavilion tx1340ea) making it the machine it always should have been..works great with MS 365..which has to be the way forward for organisations large and small..i like it so much I think I'll buy a windows phone as soon as Nokia put one on the market with a proper keyboard like the n97..and the kids like the games..
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  9. #69


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    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    Are they paying you, or does your blind adoration spring from something else?
    Who's paying you? Or does your blind hatred spring from something else?

    It works both ways, you know.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    People come here to discuss. It is not an appreciation society.
    So why are you jumping to accuse me of being paid, or mentally ill? It may not be an appreciation society, but it's certainly not a commiseration society. You appear to question the motives of anyone that doesn't agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    It appears that many have not considered what they are buying into. Perhaps the public at large are not in a position to follow what is going on.
    Perhaps, many have not. Many simply do not care. How many people consider the ramifications of a smart phone? How many consider the ramifications of posting to Twitter and Facebook? Many people simply do not have the concerns you do, because it simply does not matter to them.

    Honestly. What are these "ramifications" you keep going on about? Walking down the street has ramifications.

    Quote Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
    MS are in a position of monopoly power, it is not a free choice.
    BS. It's completely a free choice. Nobody forces anyone to use Windows. Even if they buy a computer that comes with Windows, nothing forces them to keep it (other than on ARM tablets and Phones, which is no different from iPads or iPhones). There are plenty of places that will sell you a Mac or Linux PC or whatever.

    How about instead of arguing about what might be, argue about what is. YOU are not stuck with Windows 8. YOU do not have to buy it if you don't want to. YOU are not being forced to do something against your will. Arguing about poor joe sixpack who will be abused by the giant monopoly is just pointless.

    The average user is perfectly capable of making purchasing decisions for themselves. If they need help, they will seek it out. But nobody is going to spend hundreds of dollars without asking a few questions.
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    If someone want to pay me to say something I can give my Paypal email....... lol

    Something is sure, up to Windows 7 , Microsoft make huge effort to improve their new OS , because they want peoples to spent and upgrade. Now it's easy to see with Windows 8 , that Microsoft is after other type of customers than their regular desktop one. This is why it will be good to have competition in the desktop to make sure Microsoft continue to improve it and listen what peoples wants. In the phone and tablets industry they have this competition , just an Example the new 10" tablet of Google now have a back camera ( not present on the Nexus 7) , this have be done because peoples ask for it. Do Miscrosoft will listen peoples who ask for a start button, what is the need, they have the desktop monopoly, at least it'S what they think, if I'm not wrong, Apple sell more Mac with OSX than HP sell PC

    What do you think will happen if Apple will license Dell and HP and others to let them use the OSX in cheaper PC ? . It won't happen , but

    We just talk for fun let's keep it cool
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