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Is Windows 8 a failure ? Time to say bye, bye MSFT ?

  1. #291


    Australia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    It's both good and bad. Good for android that it's prevalent and in use, iffy for developers as fragmentation is phenomenal, crappy for end users on the 52 percent side of android 2.xx.x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxx.xxx.
    Truth is I don't use many apps from store on my Android phone. I use it primarily as a phone, or texting, but will go online if in a free iNet zone, like MacDonalds, or most decent coffee lounges, to check emails, or maybe a navigation map, store product, weather, TV program to remotely set my recorder at home, or some such similar task.

    There are so many free iNet zones now it seems silly to pay the big $$$$ for a few MBs on paid plans or use pre-paid rechargeable plans. But in an emergency, if I really, really needed to go online while out bush, I still have the option to use my credit on my mobile pre-paid.

    At home, with Bigpond ISP on a 2 year plan, for $90/month I get the phone supplied, caller ID, ADSL2, 25GB/month, WiFi Modem/router, free local calls and $1 capped unlimited national calls around Aussie; and 20 minute calls to other Telstra mobiles for $1. For overseas calls I use SKYPE. My son's in Brussels at the moment and this is by far the most economical way.

    Telstra Bigpond are currently installing infrastructure for a national fibre optic cable system to private homes as a dedicated iNet system instead of using conventional land lines for both phone calls and iNet. Speed wise that will blow everything else out of the water.

    As it stands in a mobile phone application OS, Android would need quite a bit of work to make it a viable desktop OS.
    Last edited by Mustang; 28 Nov 2012 at 14:16.

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  2. #292


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    It's both good and bad. Good for android that it's prevalent and in use, iffy for developers as fragmentation is phenomenal, crappy for end users on the 52 percent side of android 2.xx.x.x.x.x.x.xxxxxxxxx.xxx.
    As it stands in a mobile phone application OS, Android would need quite a bit of work to make it a viable desktop OS.
    Ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah. Actually, I think it needs work as a mobile phone OS as it is! Just recently, google finally has gotten their act together in with the most prevalent issue with android: app fragmentation. They recently added a clause in the SDK saying that developers can't cause fragmentation.
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  3. #293


    Posts : 86
    Windows 8.1 Pro & OS X Mavericks


    Is Windows 8 a failure? Well I wouldn't say it a failure like Vista, but Windows 8 isn't that great either. I've been using it for a month now and well I find the metro part kind of useless. I always end up using Firefox to check my mail, or open up iTunes to play my music, or viewing and editing photos in Picasa or something. Metro just wasn't meant to be on desktops or laptops. I understand it on Microsoft Surface or other tablet devices, but there really isn't a point using it with a mouse and keyboard. They should have improved the desktop instead, but because Microsoft is getting lazy, they want to make one operating system for everything.
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  4. #294


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMasterFX View Post
    Is Windows 8 a failure? Well I wouldn't say it a failure like Vista, but Windows 8 isn't that great either. I've been using it for a month now and well I find the metro part kind of useless. I always end up using Firefox to check my mail, or open up iTunes to play my music, or viewing and editing photos in Picasa or something. Metro just wasn't meant to be on desktops or laptops. I understand it on Microsoft Surface or other tablet devices, but there really isn't a point using it with a mouse and keyboard. They should have improved the desktop instead, but because Microsoft is getting lazy, they want to make one operating system for everything.
    Lazy they are not. It took a Herculean effort to mint an O/S that could support two totally different platforms and not seriously break the original. While I had to return to Win7 due to a few glitches that made it untenable for me, I can see that they did an incredible job of implementing two completely different subsystems (WinRT and Win32/Win64). If you had any idea of the complexity of what they pulled off you wouldn't even consider using the term "lazy" to describe it. "Risky", yes, "Lazy" ... not on your life.

    -Max
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  5. #295


    Posts : 120
    windows 8 pro


    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there
    you can try out Android on a PC NOW if you wish --quite easy to set up as a Virtual machine with Mouse support -- some apps from google store will also download but haven't tried running any yet.

    Install And Run Android 4.0 On Mac, Windows PC Or Linux Using VirtualBox Virtual Machine [How-To Tutorial] | Redmond Pie

    Have fun

    Cheers
    jimbo
    Somethign to give a try, i tried bluestacks on the pc but that is not comparable with your link. Gonna try that one, thanks
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  6. #296


    UK
    Posts : 177
    Win 8


    You all know how to drive a car right? Steering wheel In front f you gas under your right foot brake on the left? Well I've developed a new system for my car, steering wheel under your left foot, brake worked by your nose, gas by twitching your left ear. You going to buy my car or get something else?

    Dead end bye bye M$
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  7. #297


    Helena Al
    Posts : 29
    Windows 8 64bit Pro


    Shocker...Surface Pro is $899 for a 64GB model and $999 for a 128GB model . Wow..guess they don't want to sell any. @PCMag That's just way over priced and another black eye for windows 8 in my book..you think people will pay that..not..me.
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  8. #298


    UK
    Posts : 177
    Win 8


    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck;
    It took a Herculean effort to mint an O/S that could support two totally different platforms and not seriously break the original.

    -Max
    Two different platforms require two different OS, why don't ballet dancers wear ski boots? Absolute stupidity.
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  9. #299


    Posts : 86
    Windows 8.1 Pro & OS X Mavericks


    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck;
    It took a Herculean effort to mint an O/S that could support two totally different platforms and not seriously break the original.

    -Max
    Two different platforms require two different OS, why don't ballet dancers wear ski boots? Absolute stupidity.
    That sums up everything perfectly. Microsoft does not want to build a mobile operating system that works on tablets and phones. (I heard they also want Windows 8 to run on phones) They should have made it that way instead. Build Windows Metro OS or whatevers that includes only the necessary components that are needed in a mobile device. Only include drivers that are only needed in that particular device (make the oem include their own drivers) instead of putting everything including the useless rt desktop and also consuming 16gb of i don't know what.

    As for Windows 8 on the desktop, a lot could be done to make desktop productivity more efficient instead of making everything fullscreen.
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  10. #300


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by steveb View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck;
    It took a Herculean effort to mint an O/S that could support two totally different platforms and not seriously break the original.

    -Max
    Two different platforms require two different OS, why don't ballet dancers wear ski boots? Absolute stupidity.
    Maybe so. I was just addressing the "lazy" argument.

    -Max
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