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  1. #101


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    There are certain tasks that you would never want to do on a tablet and some you don't need a desktop for.
    The mistake you're making is that you are assuming the tablet of tomorrow will be the same as the tablet of today (underpowered, limited use, difficult to use for extended typing).

    That is almost certainly not going to be true of tablets in the future. Tablets in the future will be just as powerful as todays desktops, just as capable, etc.. just in a smaller form factor. You plug it into a dock on your desktop and use your full size keyboard, mouse and monitor, and you won't know the difference between a "desktop" and a "tablet".
    The only advantage tablets have over laptops and desktops is portability.

    No matter how good your tablet CPU is, my desktop can have a better one (or more of them) period.
    How many tablets come with 64 GB of RAM, 256 GB SSDs, 2 TB HDDs and 23"+ screens?

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  2. #102


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    There are certain tasks that you would never want to do on a tablet and some you don't need a desktop for.
    The mistake you're making is that you are assuming the tablet of tomorrow will be the same as the tablet of today (underpowered, limited use, difficult to use for extended typing).

    That is almost certainly not going to be true of tablets in the future. Tablets in the future will be just as powerful as todays desktops, just as capable, etc.. just in a smaller form factor. You plug it into a dock on your desktop and use your full size keyboard, mouse and monitor, and you won't know the difference between a "desktop" and a "tablet".
    The only advantage tablets have over laptops and desktops is portability.

    No matter how good your tablet CPU is, my desktop can have a better one (or more of them) period.
    How many tablets come with 64 GB of RAM, 256 GB SSDs, 2 TB HDDs and 23"+ screens?
    First of all, do you actually need 64 GB RAM? Have you actually used something like that?

    Next, you talk about the storage capacities. Fine. Have you carefully read the text you quoted? It didn't talk about tablets of today but tomorrow. The future. I can bet tomorrow's tablets will come with storages like this. Just five years ago - my main desktop had 80 GB HDD. I couldn't even dream of 1 TB then. See? Technology is moving fast. And the best part is that, it's getting faster.

    And, if you have followed this thread carefully - a few posts after the post you quoted - another post talks about how the dock can have extra storage spaces and extra processors. There you can have 64 GB RAM as well.

    Now the screen size. Can you tell me - which of the generally used desktop PCs come with a 52" + screens?

    You don't see generally, do you? Because it isn't convenient and most importantly not required . If you can perform the tasks in a smaller sized screen why are you worried about 23"+ ?

    The question is: Which is more important- Portability? or Big screen? You can't have them both, where would you compromise?

    For me portability is far more important than big screen size. I would choose portability over big screen size any day of the week. Especially when you can achieve the task with a smaller screen as well.

    Anyway, tomorrow's tablets would (I'm not sure if there are already tablets in the market that) come with ports to connect external displays in case you require.
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  3. #103


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    That's not what Balmer said at all. He said they were off to a Modest start. Modest doesn't mean "Poor",
    of course he will not admit it's a fail.......... Problem with the distribution of Surface, well fire the guy in charge too, what happen Microsoft don't have enough resource ? Mystere better get ready, Windows 8 will have a shorter life than Millenium
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  4. #104


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    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Peck View Post
    There are certain tasks that you would never want to do on a tablet and some you don't need a desktop for.
    The mistake you're making is that you are assuming the tablet of tomorrow will be the same as the tablet of today (underpowered, limited use, difficult to use for extended typing).

    That is almost certainly not going to be true of tablets in the future. Tablets in the future will be just as powerful as todays desktops, just as capable, etc.. just in a smaller form factor. You plug it into a dock on your desktop and use your full size keyboard, mouse and monitor, and you won't know the difference between a "desktop" and a "tablet".
    The only advantage tablets have over laptops and desktops is portability.

    No matter how good your tablet CPU is, my desktop can have a better one (or more of them) period.
    How many tablets come with 64 GB of RAM, 256 GB SSDs, 2 TB HDDs and 23"+ screens?
    Well, this super-laptop doesn't come anywhere NEAR your specs (nice setup, BTW,... check my specs...), but is no slouch, and is certainly not very portable.

    But I can't see a tablet (ANY tablet) replacing it in the foreseeable future.

    I will be buying a 7" tablet for Xmas, but it will be an adjunct to what I already have, not a replacement.
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  5. #105


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    a i5 in a tablet , were is the need ?
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  6. #106


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    a i5 in a tablet , were is the need ?
    It's for people who expect their tablet to replace their desktop or their laptop.
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  7. #107


    Posts : 1,127
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    My next notebook/tablet will definitely be an i5 or above. I do like the idea of having a full-fledged computer around with me all the time. That's why I had an old Tablet PC.
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  8. #108


    Posts : 1,308
    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    a i5 in a tablet , were is the need ?
    It's for people who expect their tablet to replace their desktop or their laptop.

    I like the word expect, lol



    My next notebook/tablet will definitely be an i5 or above. I do like the idea of having a full-fledged computer around with me all the time. That's why I had an old Tablet PC.

    Throw a ssd in a i3 and you are in business, honestly I don't see the differences between a i3 and i5 with office and browsing, anyway that'S not a big deal, I just talk to talk
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  9. #109


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    The only advantage tablets have over laptops and desktops is portability.

    No matter how good your tablet CPU is, my desktop can have a better one (or more of them) period.
    How many tablets come with 64 GB of RAM, 256 GB SSDs, 2 TB HDDs and 23"+ screens?
    Again, I repeat. You are making the mistake of assuming the limitations of a tablet today will be the limitations of a tablet tomorrow.

    That is not a given.

    As I said, There are already CPU's in the works that are low-power when run on battery, but high power when run on AC. So it's not a "period", because they most certainly *CAN* create a top of the line CPU that will also be low power when on battery.

    And you can connect your tablet to a base station to give it more memory and more disk space and larger screen size. This is already being done today.

    And yes, there are tablets with i7 CPU's, 256GB SSD's, and some with 8 or 16GB of RAM. Not 64, but you would be hard pressed to find any desktop PC that can do 64GB of RAM today anyways. Most have only 4 sockets, and since there's no 16GB sticks, that means limited to 32GB.

    I've even seen some designs that are phone sized, that can plug into a tablet "Shell". Then you can plug the Phone into a desktop docking station and use it as a desktop, tablet, or phone.

    This *IS* coming.
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  10. #110


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    That's not what Balmer said at all. He said they were off to a Modest start. Modest doesn't mean "Poor",
    of course he will not admit it's a fail.......... Problem with the distribution of Surface, well fire the guy in charge too, what happen Microsoft don't have enough resource ? Mystere better get ready, Windows 8 will have a shorter life than Millenium
    Dude. You said He *DID* say it. Now you say he won't admit it. Can you get your story straight?
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