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Should I install 32GB of ram?

  1. #11


    Redmond
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    Windows 8.1 x64


    Nice!

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  2. #12


    I have 64GB of corsair's premium platinum sticks (2.6GHZ), pc runs pretty fast whatever you're running.
    I think 32GB in 5 years time will be the norm.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Sorry, I gotta say this for the majority of people who may read this.
    Because there are a lot of people who may misconstrue this as what they will need in theirs.

    That is an extremely excessive amount of ram in a PC that would be highly under utilized, even for VM's or Rendering basic Video
    unless you are creating full blown Movies, then maybe. But that is specialty circumstance that the majority of people coming here will never use, ever.

    To give you an idea on VM's.
    I can run on my laptop with 4G's of RAM at the same time,,
    2 Servers
    2 OS's
    and Linux

    Yes, it's a bit sluggish, but it works with that much. I would add more if I could to it.
    But I would not exceed probably 8G for just that. And that is the only reason I would install that much RAM.

    So, while the idea here was to max it out for Video Rendering and 3D stuff, yes, having this much is a good idea. If, you are doing large movies and large 3D graphics.

    Only Servers doing mass data transfers or Virtualization for small to Large companies will ever require that amount of RAM.

    Even 6G in a gaming system is more than will ever be needed for the next few years. maybe even longer.
    Games are all in the Video Card anyway.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    When RAM costs $40 for 16GB, 32GB is a drop in the bucket. You forget that a lot of people have multiple apps open. They might be rending video and running photoshop with 20 large images open while rendering a 3D scene and doing it all to a RAM disk.

    I agree this is far more ram that someone that is surfing the web or writing an email will ever use, but it's pretty silly to call it "excessive" when the person asking the question mentioned several heavy memory intensive apps.
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  5. #15


    Here's an example of what I do, I also have more than 1 monitor heck have 4 27" running at 2560X1440 and with Nvidia's Xinerama enabled so giving me a pretty large resolution.

    I run at least 5 instances of Photoshop CS6
    Unity 3D
    I usually have 10 instances of Visual C++ and C# running
    VMware for Linux stuff
    a movie running at all times
    3Ds max
    maya
    zbrush
    cinema4D

    Plus I always have reference images open as well and this is all running and open, nothing is minimized.

    I also will have Lightworks running as well for rending and cleaning up video.
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  6. #16


    Atlanta, GA
    Posts : 18
    Windows 8 Pro x64, OS X Mountain Lion, CentOS


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Sorry, I gotta say this for the majority of people who may read this.


    I don't disagree with you. I bought 16GB originally - that is closer to my needs today.

    Like I mentioned in my original post, my last computer build (i7-920) had 12GB of ram in it at a time when 4GB was pretty much the norm. I thought it was a bit much but with triple channel, it was kinda 3x2GB or 3x4GB and I kinda thought 6GB was a little low. Over the course of using that computer, I did have a few times when I was maxing out the ram. Photoshop and Illustrator open and I dynamic link an After Effects comp into Premiere and I was using all of the ram. After Effects also caches RAM pretty well and allows you to do RAM preview renders based on however much ram you have. A few years ago I was lucky to get several seconds, now I can probably RAM preview whole clips I'm working on. HD is of course pretty much the normal now.

    So I just built this computer a day or two ago, and I was like, dang, I did not even consider going 4x8GB and I remembered back to when I thought 12GB was insane and then there were days when I filled it all up. If I go back to the store now, I can get the same make and model of ram and just fill all four slots and maybe, I don't know when, but maybe one day I will end up dipping into it.

    I think it was several things:

    1. 32GB was... $100. I remember when RAM delivery trucks used to get held up - ram cost more than gold. My first computer had 96MB of ram. Half of the cost was the computer. The other half was the RAM. $100 is pretty reasonable.

    2. I got the matched sticks now and don't have to worry about finding them 1-2 years later if need be.

    3. I though 12GB was insane once and it wasn't at some point. I think 32GB is pretty insane now, but, the day I need it, I'm going to be glad it's there.

    You are right though, 9x% of the time, I'm not going to come close to using it. My VMs are dev servers for my VPS machines so I tend to keep them as 512MB or 1GB affairs. Sometimes I install a Linux distro with a GUI and give it 4GB, but who knows, maybe I'll end up doing some weird stuff one day and have a bunch of VMs going or... ?
    Last edited by schemula; 03 Nov 2012 at 02:47.
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  7. #17


    Redmond
    Posts : 651
    Windows 8.1 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    To give you an idea on VM's.
    I can run on my laptop with 4G's of RAM at the same time,,
    2 Servers
    2 OS's
    and Linux
    While that is your experience, try running Exchange 2013 or SCCM 2012 in a lab with a server running 512MB of RAM (or even 2GB). For example, the minimum requirements for Ex2013s CAS role is 8GB (yes, you read that right). If you want to actually test a production scenario out (not just your code, but the whole 3 tier app layer and the network that will sit around it and interact) will require more than 4GB of RAM .

    I would agree that I'm not going to tell the average Joe to buy a machine with more than 8GB of RAM, having a box with 64GB of RAM does come in handy for some of us.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 149
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit, Ubuntu 13.04 64-Bit


    Windows 8 Pro happens to be on my laptop. Unfortunately, the max memory there is 8gb. On the other hand, my desktop runs Windows 7 64-bit. I have 6GB of RAM right now, but I might replace it with 12gb of a faster RAM by G.Skill. I would get 24GB (my mobo supports it), but since my Windows 7 is Home Premium, there's a software limit of 16GB (for some dumb reason, seriously MS ??). So 12GB it shall be, if I decide to order it.

    That, or spend another $40 and turn my desktop into a Windows 8 machine, but I'm not sure I'm ready to do that, given my hatred towards the look of the desktop UI (removal of Aero) and a few other things that still annoy me about Windows 8. I'm hoping that Stardock or someone will come out with a solution to that before January hits and the deal is off.
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  9. #19


    Quote Originally Posted by schemula View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Sorry, I gotta say this for the majority of people who may read this.


    I don't disagree with you. I bought 16GB originally - that is closer to my needs today.

    Like I mentioned in my original post, my last computer build (i7-920) had 12GB of ram in it at a time when 4GB was pretty much the norm. I thought it was a bit much but with triple channel, it was kinda 3x2GB or 3x4GB and I kinda thought 6GB was a little low. Over the course of using that computer, I did have a few times when I was maxing out the ram. Photoshop and Illustrator open and I dynamic link an After Effects comp into Premiere and I was using all of the ram. After Effects also caches RAM pretty well and allows you to do RAM preview renders based on however much ram you have. A few years ago I was lucky to get several seconds, now I can probably RAM preview whole clips I'm working on. HD is of course pretty much the normal now.

    So I just built this computer a day or two ago, and I was like, dang, I did not even consider going 4x8GB and I remembered back to when I thought 12GB was insane and then there were days when I filled it all up. If I go back to the store now, I can get the same make and model of ram and just fill all four slots and maybe, I don't know when, but maybe one day I will end up dipping into it.

    I think it was several things:

    1. 32GB was... $100. I remember when RAM delivery trucks used to get held up - ram cost more than gold. My first computer had 96MB of ram. Half of the cost was the computer. The other half was the RAM. $100 is pretty reasonable.

    2. I got the matched sticks now and don't have to worry about finding them 1-2 years later if need be.

    3. I though 12GB was insane once and it wasn't at some point. I think 32GB is pretty insane now, but, the day I need it, I'm going to be glad it's there.

    You are right though, 9x% of the time, I'm not going to come close to using it. My VMs are dev servers for my VPS machines so I tend to keep them as 512MB or 1GB affairs. Sometimes I install a Linux distro with a GUI and give it 4GB, but who knows, maybe I'll end up doing some weird stuff one day and have a bunch of VMs going or... ?
    Lower quality ram won't perform as well as high performing ram, I spent $800 on 64GB of ram as I don't want compromise, 64GB of well crap ram will cost you around $400 but it's just low quality sticks.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Rukiri View Post
    Lower quality ram won't perform as well as high performing ram, I spent $800 on 64GB of ram as I don't want compromise, 64GB of well crap ram will cost you around $400 but it's just low quality sticks.
    Even high end RAM is now super cheap. Newegg just had a deal yesterday with 16GB of PC1866 Corsair high end memory for $64. So that means $275 or so for 64GB. Of course that would mean having a lot of slots. Most desktop PC's don't have 8 DIMM sockets.
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