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  1. #11


    Ziggy, I'll advise to be a little more patient with 8. It'll stretch one's patients for sure. The learning curve is a bit more with this one. I've got to say you came on a bit strong including the title of your thread. It certainly caught my eye. It's ok to rant as others stated, but the sudden judgement is what bothered me.

    8 is mainly created for touch, but works well with mouse and keyboard shortcuts. Modern (Metro) plus Win32 UIs combined. Win32 taking 2nd to Modern. Think of your pointer being your finger. The four corners are "hot spots" for navigation for charms bars on the right, mini Start Screen lower left (right click that for guts menu), and upper left slide-outs for open Modern apps, legacy programs, and/or the desktop (if any open). Think of the desktop as a program, for it takes second place to the Start Screen now. As you will see, navigation is quite different. Menus are in different places. I think once you get accustomed to this you'll feel more comfortable. Also, there are a ton of tutorials in the tutorial section of the forum. There's a keyboard shortcut list as well. I pinned a help tile in my Start Screen for reference.

    I'll advise other members to be more patient with new members even if they come on strong. Try to remember your first experience with 8. We all asked more or less in our own way -> WTF is this?!!

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  2. #12


    Posts : 6
    Windows 8 Pro


    The biggest help I got in getting used to Win 8 was to use Dual monitors and keep the Metro Screen up at all times on one monitor, then I was able to stop fighting it since it came out. And I am now at ease with just one monitor.
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  3. #13


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy925 View Post
    Thanks, Max. I understand exactly what you are saying. It's just that sometimes you just want to take care of business and 2 dimensions is more than enough.
    I understand, Ziggy. There's no reason to rush. Win7 is superb. Win8 is just going to extend that "superbness" I believe. It will be there when you're ready for it.

    -Max
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  4. #14


    Quote Originally Posted by ivy8 View Post
    Troll? I can't see how Windows 8 is difficult for anyone with an above average IQ.
    Trolling is possible.

    However, it's pretty easy to see how some people would find Windows 8 difficult to use. Not impossible to figure out, but perhaps far less intuitive than one would imagine. I've got over 20 years of running Windows under my belt and been supporting it professionally since 1997 and my first few encounters were a bit confusing
    1). waiting for prompt to press ctrl-alt-delete to logon
    2). where is the power button
    3). I picked desktop app and i'm now stuck in the desktop and cannot figure out how to get that start menu back
    4). I launched full screen IE and now cannot figure out how to close it (since there are no X's in the upper corner).

    Perhaps my IQ really is super low, but using Windows 8 was certainly not drop dead simple for me.
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  5. #15


    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy925 View Post
    I've been a huge Windows fan since DOS, and I've used every incarnation of Windows since it's inception. I've also used other ancient operating system I don't even want to get into, but yesterday I was helping a friend setup their new computer running Windows 8 and felt like I was visiting another planet. I have a higher than average IQ, and I can usually sit down at any computer and figure it out, but this was too much. I tried doing searches on the Net to figure out what was going on but didn't get anywhere. Am I the only one with this problem?

    Eventually I found a program called Classic Shell and we were able to move forward, but now "I'm" contemplating getting a new computer and I'm thinking Apple for the first time in my life.
    Use your IQ to spend a few minutes reading this free book, all the "problems" will vanish.
    Dell | Windows 8 for Dummies E-book
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  6. #16


    Posts : 7
    Windows 7


    Well, I guess my IQ lowered over the last few days. Look, I went to a friend's house to help them set up a new Windows 8 notebook. She's a writer and needs to write, save her work and email it out to publishers. I've been doing this for years and years and this is the first time I've hit a wall. I realize if I keep at it I'll figure it out, but we simply installed Classic Shell and her problem is solved and she is very happy. While I realize Windows 8 is a leap into the future for Microsoft and its customers, why couldn't they have provided a Windows 7 overlay for the rest of us? BTW, I do realize what I did is not the solution, but it is "a" solution and I explained this to her.

    My problem is years and years of using other Windows products and I think too much. I'm sure if you put a 5-year-old in front of a Windows 8 computer they'll figure it out in a few minutes.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 902
    Win8.1 Pro, Desktop Mode


    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy925 View Post
    I've been a huge Windows fan since DOS, and I've used every incarnation of Windows since it's inception. I've also used other ancient operating system I don't even want to get into, but yesterday I was helping a friend setup their new computer running Windows 8 and felt like I was visiting another planet. I have a higher than average IQ, and I can usually sit down at any computer and figure it out, but this was too much. I tried doing searches on the Net to figure out what was going on but didn't get anywhere. Am I the only one with this problem?

    Eventually I found a program called Classic Shell and we were able to move forward, but now "I'm" contemplating getting a new computer and I'm thinking Apple for the first time in my life.
    Just use classic shell and be done with it. No need whatsoever to bother with that metro nonsense.
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  8. #18


    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggy925 View Post
    Well, I guess my IQ lowered over the last few days. Look, I went to a friend's house to help them set up a new Windows 8 notebook. She's a writer and needs to write, save her work and email it out to publishers. I've been doing this for years and years and this is the first time I've hit a wall. I realize if I keep at it I'll figure it out, but we simply installed Classic Shell and her problem is solved and she is very happy. While I realize Windows 8 is a leap into the future for Microsoft and its customers, why couldn't they have provided a Windows 7 overlay for the rest of us? BTW, I do realize what I did is not the solution, but it is "a" solution and I explained this to her.

    My problem is years and years of using other Windows products and I think too much. I'm sure if you put a 5-year-old in front of a Windows 8 computer they'll figure it out in a few minutes.
    Don't worry, after a few weeks you will be able to take the training wheels off.
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  9. #19


    Posts : 162
    Windows 8 Pro


    People don't like change. They will stay with what they have rather than learn something new.

    I have been using Windows since 3.0. When Windows went from 3.1 to 95 there was a big difference. You had to give it time to learn it. Same with Windows 8, give it time to learn. Microsoft did make it more confusing by making windows with tiles and the desktop. I used a program called start8 to get the start menu back. My desktop pretty much looks like Windows 7. I have start8 set to go to the desktop after I enter my password to login so I don't see the tiles.

    I don't use the tile side of the OS much. So far I think the apps are to basic for my liking. I think the Microsoft Surface is over priced and there isn't very many apps out to justify buying the surface. Windows 8 for a desktop, I think Microsoft should of made it an option of where you want to boot your computer to. For a tablet I think it would of been better welcomed if also there was an option of using icons like android.
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  10. #20


    Start 8 is a great program. I installed in the Consumer Preview version of Windows 8. However, since I almost never used the Start Button in XP or 7 I haven't yet installed it in Windows 8. I find my usual shortcuts on the desktop handle 95% of my program access. Also some of my file access which isn't a Start Button matter.
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