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Windows 8 is not bad and everyone is overreacting

  1. #1


    Posts : 7
    Win 8 Pro

    Windows 8 is not bad and everyone is overreacting


    I dunno what else to name this thread but oh well...

    A little background... I've been with Windows since 3.1, almost 20yrs, and consider myself at the high of the power user spectrum. You can take that as you want, I just want to make the point that I'm not a newb and have had my share of command prompt entries and registry hacks etc. Anyways, from a non-newb point of view....

    My thoughts before trying Windows 8 and after trying the developer preview:

    Metro is the dumbest thing ever
    I feel like I'm using a system designed by a 5yr old
    Aero needs to come back


    Ok basically the same thing most of the people here are thinking. Well I decided to try it again and actually daily drive it vs playing around for 10mins in virutalbox. I'm using build 9200 pro if that matters to anyone.

    Anyways here are my new thoughts of it all:

    I first gave win8 another try on my htpc.. a REAL try this time. I thought I had found a great use for Metro, setting it up for a htpc so i never have to leave that screen (i know know, but it's so much easier to see and read from the couch) Well even after trying that Metro is still completely stupid to me, especially the fact that any folder of file I click brings me to the desktop with the exception of a very few apps.

    Ok maybe I'm just not getting it. So I said screw that, open the start "menu" and deleted EVERYTHING from the metro screen, it was totally blank. Yes you can add ANYTHING you want to it, it might not be a technical tile but i can add network shortcuts there, my computer, folders, anything I'd need. Point being, I don't think most people understand how they are supposed to use the start screen on a desktop. Delete everything and add all the shortcuts you'd need or have if there was a start menu. And yes it is quicker, because you don't have to wait for ever damn folder to expand and collapse when nagivating through it all, its just right there.

    The other problem... the metro apps. Why in the hell is everyone so worked up about tablet apps not working for them? Take it with a grain of salt but geez. If everyone hates metro anyways why are they trying to use the tablet apps for it? Which is also another thing, for a PC, metro is nothing more than a glorifed start menu and nothing else, I'm so sick of hearing about multitasking in it. That's because you are trying to make it something its not. I think in a solid hour of use on my computer I spend about 30 seconds to a minute in metro, the start menu, whatever clicking on an app/shortcut/folder.


    Ok, sorry for kind of ranting and probably sounding angry and not making any sense, but I think if people looked at it from the right angle, theyd realize how wrong they were looking at it all in the first place. Yeah I get it, you no longer have your "master skill" because now any retard can use a computer. Big whoop.

    The good:

    Task Manager, should've been like this since XP
    File Transfer, more detailed with a chart is really nice
    Seems stabile so far but too early to be sure
    Speed, extremely quick, smooth, snappy, noticably faster than w7
    After an hour I really didn't miss the start menu anymore
    Clicking 2 buttons to shut down or restart isn't a problem unless you have the most instabil system to date, I usually run a week uptime at a time
    I've never had an OS so thoroughly install all my drivers, I couldn't even download any because it installed all the same versions I was going to download. It even installed my wireless printer drivers!
    Almost forget, right click in the bottom left corner and its the best menu ever

    The bad:

    It takes forever to get the free key for the free upgrade to media center
    I still think the charms menu is completely retarded if anyone knows how to get rid of it please let me know
    I don't like how Chrome opens differently from the start screen vs desktop, and act as two diff programs

    Please tell me someone gave it an honest try and opened their eyes.

    Sorry for my bad grammar and not making a lot of sense, I have a lot to say in response to everyone who hates on 8 but I'm not going to devote a few hours to wording and correcting everything perfectly.

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  2. #2


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    FYI, you can change chrome to always open on the desktop with a registry entry. I wish they'd add an actual setting for it.
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  3. #3


    Posts : 7
    Win 8 Pro


    awesome, thank you!
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  4. #4


    Who is overreacting? It was MS who overreacted to their own inention. They said Metro will be a revolution. That the "old" Windows experience will be history in a matter of months, totaly replaced by Metro. It appears to be, as you said, an enhanced Start Menu that you spend 30 sec on it per day... until poeple realize that it's still faster to start straight from the Desktop.
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  5. #5


    Kansas
    Posts : 53
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit


    I actually like Metro or whatever it's called. I really like the LIVE tiles. I get weather forecasts, email, calender, sports scores, news, twitter posts, facebook newsfeeds, traffic...etc all on one screen. In Windows 7 I would have to open a tab for each one in a browser and click in and out to get the info I needed or have a bunch of sidebar gadgets all over my screen. For me it's the best of both worlds. The beauty of it is that while I'm working on the desktop side, I'm only one click away from all of that information or vise versa.

    I like the charms menu also. The search part especially. It does take some getting use to. After double-clicking on icons the last 20 years it's refreshing.

    It took me 20 hours to get my free key for Media Center. That shouldn't have happened since "no one" uses it according to Microsoft.
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  6. #6


    Posts : 80
    Windows 8 Pro


    The speed is the best part. Everything is just liquid on my SSD (in specs). A system with a HDD, not so much. But there is a smaller difference.
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  7. #7


    Posts : 7
    Win 8 Pro


    I don't think MS was overreacting, I think it was more of a typical business sales pitch like Apple, the iPhone 5 is the best iPhone yet!!!! (being number 5 out of 5 I'd hope so)

    I just thinks it absolutely rediculous how so many people here, hardforum, and a few other forums I browse think Windows 8 is just awful and unusable and can't find anything. It's really not that hard to explore a bit...
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  8. #8


    Posts : 7
    Win 8 Pro


    I agree with the live tiles, I'm really liking my weatherbug live tile and the Bing news (as much as I have still do hate Bing, I love the way the news app works)

    For me I noticed about an equal speed boost on both my htpc (HDD) and my laptop (SSD). It really surprised me with my htpc because its gpu and cpu underclocked to keep the fans quite and I still noticed a good jump in speed and smoothness.
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  9. #9


    Posts : 7
    Win 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by kcmike View Post
    I actually like Metro or whatever it's called. I really like the LIVE tiles. I get weather forecasts, email, calender, sports scores, news, twitter posts, facebook newsfeeds, traffic...etc all on one screen. In Windows 7 I would have to open a tab for each one in a browser and click in and out to get the info I needed or have a bunch of sidebar gadgets all over my screen. For me it's the best of both worlds. The beauty of it is that while I'm working on the desktop side, I'm only one click away from all of that information or vise versa.

    I like the charms menu also. The search part especially. It does take some getting use to. After double-clicking on icons the last 20 years it's refreshing.

    It took me 20 hours to get my free key for Media Center. That shouldn't have happened since "no one" uses it according to Microsoft.
    I guess my biggest gripe with the charms menu is the shortcuts that I don't ever use... devices, start, search. I do like the settings shortcut but don't like the change pc settings menu. With that said and my other few dislikes I still see this OS as a good change and improvement over W7 and won't be going back
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  10. #10


    DeLand, FL
    Posts : 380
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit


    Agreed. The thing really is OK. All the angst over it was unnecessary.

    -Max
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