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Windows 8 First Impressions

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    Windows 8 First Impressions


    When I came across Microsoft's offer of downloading this new version of Windows for 24.00, I thought, what's the catch? Was there a catch? seems far too cheap a price for Microsoft, Well after installing and testing and every day usage, yes there clearly was a catch, and it is simply this, we have been conned into a new version of windows, which is simply a cut down concoction of windows 7, with a start interface that's clearly not desktop friendly and clearly designed for mobile and tablet devices. Why bolt this useless piece of software on to a desktop OS? Is Microsoft expecting users to, shift from their clearly superior iphone and android tablets and mobiles? If they are then they are deluded.

    Some are heralding the speed of Windows 8, well that's not too difficult to achieve, given the way Microsoft have stripped down the graphical user interface, removing Aero Glass, Dynamic Icon resizing, to name but a few of the obvious software butchery that has gone on. Metro or Windows Live tiles, now where do I start with this! Firstly very poor deployment in quality of presentation as a concept, that is in no way going to be a threat to Google's Android, or Apple IOS 6 interface, and the usual Microsoft buggy experience in practice. Out of the box, there were too many Metro/Live tile apps from the Windows 8 market that failed to work correctly, from News apps to Net Radio to Video, all falling over on first run! Why was I not surprised, it's after all the Microsoft way. One can be forgiven for thinking that this version of Windows is a rather frantic attempt to keep up with the current revolution going on in the Google Android and Apple market.

    In conclusion forget the Microsoft Hype, this was clearly a missed opportunity by the Giant to make sound progress on their Windows 7 version, Windows 8 is a miss match fudge of ideas, that clearly demonstrates that Microsoft are losing their way. With the wealth of resources both financially, and intellectually, it's hard to believe that this version of Windows is the best that Microsoft could have come up with, to say that this is a missed opportunity is an understatement, and I'm sure most will feel it's even a waste of the modest 24.00.

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    it's a toss up depending upon the person. Some here absolutely love it, think it's brilliant and really wanted significant change (almost for the sake of change).

    I'm in the same boat that you are in, it's not worth the $40 upgrade price. Doesn't make my life any better or easier than it is with Windows 7.
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    Hello Philgates. Welcome to the Eight Forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    Why bolt this useless piece of software on to a desktop OS?
    There is a lot more going on here than personal preferences.
    The term useless is pejorative and is IMO, inaccurate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    we have been conned into a new version of windows, which is simply a cut down concoction of windows 7
    Sorry, I have not been duped by a confidence man. IMO, Windows 8 is a better OS than 7. My first impression.

    Quote Originally Posted by 8Nation View Post
    This symbiosis of characteristics had to be intentional on the part of Microsoft engineers because the interface works so cleanly , all while the desktop offers the user the familiar interface and full-fledged applications we have all come to know and love for sit down productivity sessions.

    The Microsoft Apps market, like the Android and Apple Markets, provide the user with the casual apps one would need for things like weather, news, sport highlights and gaming.

    The two environments function as one to a point where they flow together in a way that forces one to forget that the OS is still just Windows. The user is engulfed by the experience once the learning curve has been achieved.
    ... don't care about cloud computing conspiracy theories. Maybe I should, but I don't.
    My first impression of 8 user errors is mostly that many are trying to do something that they are not sure of how to do it. Trial and Error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    Windows 8 is a miss match fudge of ideas
    How did this thread get a 5 star review? By saying that Windows 8 is bad? I guess we should all abandon it. Maybe we can time travel into an alternate economic reality.
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    Hi Mdmd, thanks for the welcome, I posted this before reading other threads, and clearly after doing some reading, I can see that Win 8 is not popular, though that's not a surprise to me. As for personal preferences, what else of significance is going on with this very poor live tile concept ripped from winmo and bolted on to our desktop OS? Sorry but I just don't get it, and people will vote with their pocket in the end, how many desktops and laptops have touch screen? If Microsoft want to regain some market share in the Mobile and Tablet market then fine, design the software technology specifically for those devices, with the usual Windows compatibility, no need to bolt on the very poor mobile tile interface on to our desktop, it's counter productive, not needed, not wanted! Do some of these software designers live in the real world? I suspect not!...............
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    I agree. I keep hearing that same phrase over and over. That Windows 8 is "useless". Or they say "unproductive". All of which are measurably false, since Windows 8 does virtually everything Windows 7 does. If a program launcher is the entirety of your universe, and it's the only that makes the OS "useful" or "productive", then I say you really aren't using your computer for much of anything.

    Windows 8 is 99.9% of Windows 7, PLUS Metro (a subsystem that stays entirely out of your way if you don't use any metro apps).

    If I didn't know any better, given the constant exact phrases being mentioned, I'd say someone is creating sock puppets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    Hi Mdmd, thanks for the welcome, I posted this before reading other threads, and clearly after doing some reading, I can see that Win 8 is not popular, though that's not a surprise to me.
    It's not popular with a small subset of very vocal people. Every poll that's been taken has shown that it's about a 2:1 in favor of Windows 8 and Metro. And that's just in people that express an opinion either way. There are probably a lot more people that are unconcerned either way.

    The truly interesting thing is how many people who WERE vocally against it have come around to either "It's not as bad as I used to think it was" or actually liking it. If you give it a chance, you may find it's not the evil spawn of satan you had convinced yourself it was.
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    There will always be choice, thank goodness, and Windows 8 will definitely not be my choice, I will stick with Windows 7, after 3 days of this useless piece of junk, I'm off back to Windows 7!............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    I agree. I keep hearing that same phrase over and over. That Windows 8 is "useless". Or they say "unproductive". All of which are measurably false, since Windows 8 does virtually everything Windows 7 does. If a program launcher is the entirety of your universe, and it's the only that makes the OS "useful" or "productive", then I say you really aren't using your computer for much of anything.

    Windows 8 is 99.9% of Windows 7, PLUS Metro (a subsystem that stays entirely out of your way if you don't use any metro apps).

    If I didn't know any better, given the constant exact phrases being mentioned, I'd say someone is creating sock puppets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    Hi Mdmd, thanks for the welcome, I posted this before reading other threads, and clearly after doing some reading, I can see that Win 8 is not popular, though that's not a surprise to me.
    It's not popular with a small subset of very vocal people. Every poll that's been taken has shown that it's about a 2:1 in favor of Windows 8 and Metro. And that's just in people that express an opinion either way. There are probably a lot more people that are unconcerned either way.

    The truly interesting thing is how many people who WERE vocally against it have come around to either "It's not as bad as I used to think it was" or actually liking it. If you give it a chance, you may find it's not the evil spawn of satan you had convinced yourself it was.


    Who's buying Windows phones? so why bolt on this mobile interface to a desktop OS? Think Google & Apple will be laughing at this piece of software evolution, big financial mistake by Microsoft. Let's hope Google start to look at the Desktop OS Market, because Microsoft have lost the plot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    I agree. I keep hearing that same phrase over and over. That Windows 8 is "useless". Or they say "unproductive". All of which are measurably false, since Windows 8 does virtually everything Windows 7 does.
    But if I'm the end user and I'm slower using this new system...how is it not less productive? If these new metro apps barely work or take lots of time to figure out, how is this more productive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    If a program launcher is the entirety of your universe, and it's the only that makes the OS "useful" or "productive", then I say you really aren't using your computer for much of anything.
    It's not just the program launcher, that's just the obvious visible thing. There are settings in the control panel, and there are also settings in the Charms bar settings. I personal much prefer the color schemes and rounded corners of Windows 7, I find the new grey windows and square corners to be terribly bland.

    If Windows 8 was my only choice, I could use it. No problems. But since I have Windows 7 and I have a choice as to whether I want to spend my money on 8, I choose not to. Some could say 8 is useless to me as it doesn't provide me with enough benefits to outweigh what I consider to be costs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    It's not popular with a small subset of very vocal people. Every poll that's been taken has shown that it's about a 2:1 in favor of Windows 8 and Metro. And that's just in people that express an opinion either way. There are probably a lot more people that are unconcerned either way.
    One doesn't have to just come to this site to see that more than just a "small subset of very vocal people" don't like Windows 8. It's not 100% unanimous either, but it's certainly not just a teeny tiny minority of people who don't like it. Many people are not concerned as they have Windows 7, aren't planning to upgrade or buy a computer and could care less about what version of Windows is out there. Heck, many of 'em might even be planning to simply buy an Apple when their Windows pc finally croaks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    The truly interesting thing is how many people who WERE vocally against it have come around to either "It's not as bad as I used to think it was" or actually liking it. If you give it a chance, you may find it's not the evil spawn of satan you had convinced yourself it was.
    At first I thought it was completely awful and should always be avoided at all costs. I'm still not a personal fan, am not planning to use it myself...but have suggested that some people at work who are in the market for a new PC at least give it a shake before they decide for sure that they want to stick with Windows 7. Of the 4 people who have purchased a new PC, 4 of them at my place have stuck with Windows 7 after having not been impressed with the Windows 8 system that I let them use at work.
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    pparks you have the patience of a saint, I can't be bothered to spell out the obvious, but it's clear to me Microsoft have lost their way, and as such are now under real threat from the competition, not a bad thing anyway, but as an end user, Linux and Apple are going to be the likely beneficiaries of Microsoft's corporate blunders, don't see this Win 8 taking off at all.
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