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Windows 8 First Impressions

  1. #21


    Totally agree with Philgates. I should give up my Samsung Galaxy Touchwiz UI for Metro, not in a million years, Then I should give up my beautiful Win7 desktop UI for something that looks like Win98 with colour, don't think so.

    Re Google and desktop, try downloading Android x86 and dropping it onto a USB stick. It boots up quick and is just like android on a phone or tablet, comes complete with office and seems to have all the drivers etc.......and its free...

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  2. #22


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    Server 2012 / 8.0


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Why is this unfair? Do you know how I work with my computer at home. My home and my work productivity are very similar. I'm a systems admin and I run and test similar things in my home lab and at work.

    Facebook was just my example above, there could be many other things that cause issues as well. And I do use Facebook for work purposes. I have many friends and colleagues that I contact via Facebook soliciting advice, opinions or experiences. Same reasons why using this forum is ok for work too. I learn from here and apply to work.
    Don't let the guy from Iceland know about your Fbooking.

    Well, I am retired, but, perhaps incorrectly, I assumed that work is for office jobs, ie. reports, spreadsheets, presentations, proposals etc... Fbooking, unless allowed, I guess, should not be a part of the workplace.
    (never used Fbook, wouldn't know how to use it)
    ... also, I don't work in an office environment, so I plead ignorance here.
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  3. #23


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    One of the problems with people that "review" or "test" an OS in a virtual machine, is that they don't have any of their productivity apps installed. As such, they never really get a true impression of how using it on a day to day basis is. They only focus on the new stuff, not how it works with their old stuff. this leads people to wrongly conclude that the system only works with the new stuff, or to simply forget that it's more than just the new stuff.

    This leads to the conclusion of "Ok, I've tested enough. Now, let me go back to my old windows so I can be productive and get stuff done". If you truly want to test an OS, you have to have EVERYTHING you use on a daily basis in it, so you can understand how it fits into your workflow, not just how you THINK It will fit into your workflow.

    A very good point, Mystere.

    I started testing and playing with 8 in Virtual-Box, once I felt confident with it
    (CP 32-bit) I dumped it on my second laptop as an upgrade over my Win 7
    Ultimate setup. That was in March.

    Everything worked fine, so much so that the machine is still running the same
    upgraded setup without a single issue (bar the inevitable 'bities' always found
    in beta software).

    This machine currently runs the 64-bit Enterprise RTM set up as a clean install,
    but with all the same progs & apps installed as the other laptop. Everything
    works perfectly, and all the tweaks and 3rd-party software I use (Classic Shell
    anyone?) had already been tested on the other machine.

    This installation is fast and rock-solid. Loving the OS itself, even Metro (I use
    both the Start Screen AND the Start button).

    Just don't like the push to the cloud, and the drift towards a 'closed' environment
    like the Fruit-Gum Company. I'll be working to avoid that sad eventuality.

    And I WOULD like to have 'proper' Aero back....
    Last edited by Kat; 31 Oct 2012 at 16:54.
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  4. #24


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I do love my Galaxy S3, but the thing that is frustration is that you're limited to 7 app screens. One nice thing about Windows phone is that (I believe) there is no real limit on it.
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  5. #25


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    I do love my Galaxy S3, but the thing that is frustration is that you're limited to 7 app screens. One nice thing about Windows phone is that (I believe) there is no real limit on it.
    I have an s3 as well. I only use 3 of my app screens. I created folders on the primary screen and almost everything lives in this those folders.
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  6. #26


    Adelaide
    Posts : 1,338
    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    Tolerable


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Philgates View Post
    Hi Mdmd, thanks for the welcome, I posted this before reading other threads, and clearly after doing some reading, I can see that Win 8 is not popular, though that's not a surprise to me.
    It's not popular with a small subset of very vocal people. Every poll that's been taken has shown that it's about a 2:1 in favor of Windows 8 and Metro. And that's just in people that express an opinion either way. There are probably a lot more people that are unconcerned either way.
    TechRepublic
    Infographic: Who's making the move to Windows 8? | TechRepublic


    You will probably need to click on the image three times to see it fullsize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I actually think that for many, Windows 8 will be fine and many people will simply tolerate and adjust to it.
    I think pparks1 is right, I could tolerate it if I was forced to use it (IMO, just like the "Ribbon" in Office 2007).

    If you haven't used the previous versions (<=Office 2003 or Windows 7) you probably won't have any problems.

    At least with W8 you can get free add-ons to obliterate Metro.
    I've never found a free add-on to kill the "Ribbon" in Office.

    IMO, Linux Mint (MATE) is better than tolerable.
    If I didn't already have Ubuntu 10 LTS installed on my HDD, I'd install Linux Mint (MATE) as my Linux Distro.

    Quote Originally Posted by ivy8 View Post
    Er, I doubt the average average user knows what Linux is or knows how to burn an .iso. And Ubuntu is still a waste of time for me. I still have to edit fstab and add noatime for my SSD, and if I want maximum versatility I still have to manually mount all my HDDs. In 2012. I'm pretty certain Linux will always be a fringe OS.
    I hate manually mounting drives too.

    Since you know how to edit "fstab", just add your HDDs to "fstab" and they'll be available at boot up (that's what I did).
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  7. #27


    I couldn't pass up the $39 Windows 8 offer. I figured even if I didn't want to use it now I might in the future so better to get it cheap while I could.

    I installed it in a Dual Boot setup and have been using it a lot. Took 3-4 days to get it setup the way I want, which is basically so it looks, feels and works like Windows 7 and my wife is happy with it (a big hurdle indeed).

    The last thing I got working was a real Start button. I know some of you think it's a waste but I much prefer it to the Metro interface. I even got Windows 7 Gadgets back so I could use the Weather gadget.

    It's not as attractive as the full AERO Glass desktop in Windows 7 but it's not bad and everything works except Acronis TI 2012 which refuses to install (probably due to a poor Windows version level check).

    I think I'll stay with it and remove my retail Win 7 Pro from this desktop system and upgrade my Vista Home Premium X64 with it.

    I'll do an image backup of my 126GB SSD, clone the 80GB drive Win 8 is installed on to the 128GB SSD and see what happens. If that works then I'm all set. If not then I've have to do a clean install to the SSD but I don't think that will be necessary.
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  8. #28


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    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Tolerable
    Perhaps. About Making the Move to Windows 8?
    Windows 8 has only been for sale to the general public for 5 business days?
    Forgive me, I would be glad to guess that most of the respondents to that chart never even used Windows 8.

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  9. #29


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    Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Linux Mint 17.1 MATE (64 bit)

    I don't know about them


    Quote Originally Posted by mdmd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
    Tolerable
    Perhaps. About Making the Move to Windows 8?
    Windows 8 has only been for sale to the general public for 5 business days?
    Forgive me, I would be glad to guess that most of the respondents to that chart never even used Windows 8.

    Click image for larger version
    Maybe they tried the previews?
    This isn't the only site that's had people using W8 for the last year.

    I've tried (on VHDs):

    • W8 DP
    • W8 CP
    • W8 RP
    • W8 Ent


    Only W8 DP and W8 Ent were able to correctly install my sound driver.
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  10. #30


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    I don't know, to me the most vocal against Windows 8 are IT people or oriented around there that first take down Windows 8 as it's too difficult or time consuming to learn, as they've probably seen people within an enterprise with OS transitions and have seen their fair share to know Windows 8 will be take a while to learn. And, they also tend to reject anything that causes an upset to a traditional computing scenario that they have already adapted to. They prefer feature sets over UI changes.

    But honestly, the hype around it being awful is posh. I haven't found a SINGLE thing that Windows 8 doesn't do that I couldn't do with Windows 7. In fact, there are things about 8 that I can't do with 7, and things I can do faster and more effective with 8 than 7.

    Setting that aside, yeah, people will vote with their wallets. I've already seen reaction personally to 8 being overwhelmingly positive. Many people I've shown it to during the development phases really liked it. Some had their dissent about it, but when they used it with a bit of navigating advice, they enjoyed it. Keep in mind this was without touch. When Windows 8 was released, I meet a couple people that were really impressed with the new tablet/hybrid/laptop/convertible form factors as well as the touch AIO form factor with Windows 8. One guy in particular spent a lot on an ipad, but returned it in favor of a Lenevo Yoga, because it was the perfect hybrid of two UIs and form factors. Another person I saw liked the touch ultrabook, and was considering buying on as a gift for his wife. One of my friends that works at my local best buy told me yesterday that people were coming in asking about the Windows RT tablets. They don't have one on display, yet he actually sold one the other day. To the everyday PC user, Windows 8 seems like it's better received. That, is the majority that counts, not a bunch of croons crowing and moaning about the ruining of the desktop when that form factor is being left behind for mobile ones.
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