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  1. #11


    Covington, La
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    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    I tried it on my system and it works fine. I did both copy/past and also drag/drop. Just for clarity, the files are stored in a folder called Documents which is hidden and My Documents is a link. Right click on My Documents, select Properties and click on the Location tab and it will show you the actual location and it allows you to move it. But don't know why yours is messing up.

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  2. #12


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    I created a new folder and named it Backup for Oct. 30. I then started to back up the files that are in the My Documents folder (not the folder itself just everything that is in it.) I did a copy/paste and as soon as I clicked on paste, it changed the name of the folder that I named Backup for Oct. 30 to My Documents.
    I think I know what may be the problem. Windows is not changing the name of your folder. It's changing the DISPLAY name of your folder.

    Inside the documents folder is a hidden file called desktop.ini. You can see it if you show protected os files. In that file is a section called LocalizedResourceName, which looks up the name that Windows Explorer should display for the folder in a DLL file that contains localized translations for your culture.

    The real folder still has its original name, but if you plop that file in a folder, Windows Explorer will display whatever name the file links it up as. So when you copied the contents, my guess is that you had hide protected OS files turned off, this allowed the selection of the desktop.ini file (which normally would not be selectable).

    The funny thing here is that this should be the same in Windows 7. But maybe you didn't have Hide Protected OS files turned off on WIndows 7.

    So in conclusion, this is nothing specific about Windows 8, and it's not actually preventing you from changing the folder name to whatever you want. You can just delete the file out of your backup if you want.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    I just keep an up-to-date system-image on an external drive
    and renew it whenever I make changes to C:.

    C: only holds the OS and programs, all files are on a separate drive
    and all downloads, saves etc. go directly there. My 'Library' folder is
    virtually empty, but the locations where the files ARE stored are linked
    to the Library.

    These files get manually backed-up weekly to an external drive.

    File History is not, therefore, relevant to me, and Reset and Refresh are
    a poor substitute for sysimages as a backup/restore solution.
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  4. #14


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Snipzors View Post
    just enable file history.. don't really need to do backups anymore
    I thank you for your input. What you are saying could very well be correct. But my point is that Windows is is changing the name of a folder that I made. We should be able to name a folder without Windows changing the name and then back up the way we choose..
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  5. #15


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Snipzors View Post
    well it automatically backs up whatever files you want on whatever drive you want, at any specified interval you want.....
    whats the difference
    With all due respect. The difference is, that is not what I chose to do. I'm sure that there are many ways to backup. My question was not what is the best way to backup, it was why did it not do as I expected.
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  6. #16


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Snipzors View Post
    just enable file history.. don't really need to do backups anymore
    I thank you for your input. What you are saying could very well be correct. But my point is that Windows is is changing the name of a folder that I made. We should be able to name a folder without Windows changing the name and then back up the way we choose..
    Frank, see my comment #12. Windows is not renaming the folder, it just looks like it is because you are copying a system configuration file into the new folder.
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  7. #17


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    I created a new folder and named it Backup for Oct. 30. I then started to back up the files that are in the My Documents folder (not the folder itself just everything that is in it.) I did a copy/paste and as soon as I clicked on paste, it changed the name of the folder that I named Backup for Oct. 30 to My Documents.
    I think I know what may be the problem. Windows is not changing the name of your folder. It's changing the DISPLAY name of your folder.

    Inside the documents folder is a hidden file called desktop.ini. You can see it if you show protected os files. In that file is a section called LocalizedResourceName, which looks up the name that Windows Explorer should display for the folder in a DLL file that contains localized translations for your culture.

    The real folder still has its original name, but if you plop that file in a folder, Windows Explorer will display whatever name the file links it up as. So when you copied the contents, my guess is that you had hide protected OS files turned off, this allowed the selection of the desktop.ini file (which normally would not be selectable).

    The funny thing here is that this should be the same in Windows 7. But maybe you didn't have Hide Protected OS files turned off on WIndows 7.

    So in conclusion, this is nothing specific about Windows 8, and it's not actually preventing you from changing the folder name to whatever you want. You can just delete the file out of your backup if you want.
    I'll double check but one of the first things I always do is to go into folder options and make sure that it is set to show all hidden files.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    I'll double check but one of the first things I always do is to go into folder options and make sure that it is set to show all hidden files.
    Show hidden files is not the same as (un)hide protected operating system files.

    The second option shows files that used by the OS itself to function, such as the desktop.ini files which you wouldn't normally see, even if you have show all hidden files checked.

    But as I said, this is no different from Windows 7. It will do the same thing in the same situation.
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  9. #19


    Ohio
    Posts : 473
    Windows 8 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank1 View Post
    I am starting to get very much disenchanted with Windows 8. There are a few different reasons but the main one is that when I make a new folder and then rename it, there are times when it wants to change the name. Here is an example: In the My Documents folder, I keep all the files and folders that are important such as Word Documents, Excel Spread sheets, Pictures, etc. So when I want do make a backup which I do periodically, I simply backup everything in the My Documents folder. So this morning, I connected my external drive to make a backup. I created a new folder and named it Backup for Oct. 30. I then started to back up the files that are in the My Documents folder (not the folder itself just everything that is in it.) I did a copy/paste and as soon as I clicked on paste, it changed the name of the folder that I named Backup for Oct. 30 to My Documents. Thinking I may have made a mistake, I tried it again and the same thing happened. I now have two folders named My Documents both with the same files and folders. To me this is unacceptable. We should be able to name a folder whatever we choose as long as it has legal characters without Windows deciding to change it. Has anyone else experienced this?
    I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you mean. I just did the same thing, and did not get the results you mention. This tells me you are probably not explaining it correctly. Please give a detailed way to duplicate the behavior in a step-by-step way.

    There is probably something else going on here. And only by understanding exactly what you did can we help you.
    I’ll try to explain it a little better. First of all bydefault we have a folder on drive C: called “My Documents”. In that folder iswhere I store all of my important data and folders. So when I want to make abackup I will go to my external drive and make a folder called Backup for Oct.30 (or what the date happens to be.) I will go back to the folder on drive c:called My Documents. I will select every file and folder and click Copy. I thengo back to my external drive and right click on the folder that I named Backupfor Oct. 30 and click Paste. Just as soon as I click “Paste” the folder that Inamed backup for Oct. 30 instantly chances to “Documents”. I’ve been usingWindows since Win 3.x and this has never happened. It may sound strange but that will happen everytime. That’s the only time it will change the name. Ordinarily when I do a copypast it does not happen—only when I do what I just described.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Frank. I've explained 3 times why this happens. Why do you keep ignoring me?

    Your folder does not rename. Only it's display name changes. If you open up a command prompt, go to the drive and view the directory, you will see it's still named Oct. 30.

    Delete the desktop.ini file from inside the folder. You will see it now goes back to it's "real" name.
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