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My Mini Win 8 Review as a desktop user

  1. #11


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    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Metro isn't that great on desktops. I haven't seen one ad of Windows 8 being used on a Desktop with a keyboard and mouse. They're focusing too much on the tablet UI instead of both.
    Why would Microsoft make a commercial featuring things everyone already know Windows can do? The point of the commercial is to showcase what's new and exciting, to get people to buy it. You seriously are complaining because commercials don't feature a keyboard and mouse? Wow.

    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    What I would do is give the option to people to decide what to boot to. Desktop or Metro. And what to disable and enable. Give them choice.
    They're not going to. The start menu is dead and gone. Get used to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Because, to be honest. Not being biased, Mac OS is a superior OS in general. Windows 8 isn't better to me. Heck, they FINALLY added a way to save a screenshot without using Paint. -__- Mac had that for 5 years now. But a better way of doing it is the Gnome way. Just press PrtnScrn and it will let you save the screenshot wherever and whatever name you choose.
    Microsoft has shipped a screen capture utility since Vista called Snipping Tool, it includes Window and Screen snipping.

    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Also. The Store in Windows 8 sucks. They're all tablet friendly. Why can't they do what Apple did and have it all separate? That way they'll be desktop friendly apps.
    You haven't actually looked at them, have you? There's lots of desktop apps in the Windows store. For example, Adobe InDesign CS6 is in the store.

    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Seriously, not hating Metro, just don't think it's good for a desktop. It's great for a Tablet and HTPC possibly, just not a desktop using a mouse and keyboard. You can use a mouse and keyboard. But, that can be said about any tablet UI.
    People keep saying this.. but other than apps being full screen, can't seem to say exactly why it's not good for a desktop, and I have yet to find a single person that can justify any argument about keyboard and mouse. Keyboard and Mouse work just fine, what's "not good" about it?

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Why would Microsoft make a commercial featuring things everyone already know Windows can do? The point of the commercial is to showcase what's new and exciting, to get people to buy it. You seriously are complaining because commercials don't feature a keyboard and mouse? Wow.
    Everyone doesn't know how to use Metro with a keyboard and mouse. Even I didn't. I didn't even know how to close an app. It has a learning curve. I'm just saying they should advertise Metro on both Tablets and Desktops since it's on both versions. What do you think people will do when they get a new laptop or desktop and are booted into Metro? They'll be confused. The average consumer will be. Because there weren't ads showing that it's going to be on Desktops as wells."

    They're not going to. The start menu is dead and gone. Get used to it.
    Microsoft should give people choice. Start menu is gone, but it can be returned with third party apps.


    Microsoft has shipped a screen capture utility since Vista called Snipping Tool, it includes Window and Screen snipping.
    Yeah, but you have to run it in order to use it. Where as in Mac and Ubuntu, you just press a button. Very simple.

    You haven't actually looked at them, have you? There's lots of desktop apps in the Windows store. For example, Adobe InDesign CS6 is in the store.
    Thing here is, you have to get on Metro to do that. You're on the desktop, you have to go on Metro, then you search an app, and if it's a desktop app, it'll open up on the desktop. Most aren't. Least the ones I tried aren't. The Windows store is also full screen. Why? I don't like using full screen on anything except games and video. Look at the Pokki app store. That's what it should look like for desktops.

    People keep saying this.. but other than apps being full screen, can't seem to say exactly why it's not good for a desktop, and I have yet to find a single person that can justify any argument about keyboard and mouse. Keyboard and Mouse work just fine, what's "not good" about it?
    Not good for desktops because it doesn't offer better multitasking then standard Windows. On Metro, I can't see what time it is. I have to move my mouse to the corner to find out. On desktop, it's right there. Also, you have to right click an app and move your mouse to the bottom to go to the settings while on desktop, you just move the cursor a small distance.

    Keyboard and mouse work, but not as great as the standard desktop.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Everyone doesn't know how to use Metro with a keyboard and mouse. Even I didn't. I didn't even know how to close an app. It has a learning curve. I'm just saying they should advertise Metro on both Tablets and Desktops since it's on both versions. What do you think people will do when they get a new laptop or desktop and are booted into Metro? They'll be confused. The average consumer will be. Because there weren't ads showing that it's going to be on Desktops as wells."
    People don't learn an OS by watching commercials. That's one the most ridiculous comments I've ever heard. A commercial is intended to get you to buy something, that's it. They are 30 seconds long, and they have to pack a ton of stuff into them. They're not tutorials.

    I'm really sick of hearing all these people theorize about how confused others will be. 99 out of hundred times, it's unfounded and totally off base. People adapt. It's no worse than people learning to use an iPhone or an Android Phone or where the windshield wipers are on a new car.

    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Microsoft should give people choice. Start menu is gone, but it can be returned with third party apps.
    No, Microsoft has no intention of doing so. It's not going to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Yeah, but you have to run it in order to use it. Where as in Mac and Ubuntu, you just press a button. Very simple.
    Please. If you can't figure out how to run the snipping tool, it's unlikely you know how to use the screen capture anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Not good for desktops because it doesn't offer better multitasking then standard Windows. On Metro, I can't see what time it is. I have to move my mouse to the corner to find out. On desktop, it's right there. Also, you have to right click an app and move your mouse to the bottom to go to the settings while on desktop, you just move the cursor a small distance.
    You can also press WindowsKey+C to see the time. But again, this has nothing to do with why metro is bad for using a keyboard and mouse. You avoided answering my question. Just like everyone else that makes that insipid claim.

    What about Metro makes a keyboard and mouse work "not so great" as the desktop??? Don't keep telling me about things that are unrelated to a keyboard and mouse.
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  4. #14


    Commercials don't teach people. That's true, but what they do is advertise stuff. Windows 8 ads advertised tablets mostly. They don't advertise that it can be used on desktops. So, the average person will think that Windows 7 is still the newest OS for desktops, which it isn't.

    And I'm just saying Snipping tool is an inferior screenshooting program to what the competition had before Windows 8. That's a fact.

    Metro isn't great for desktops because it's not desktop friendly. It's a fact. It isn't. Want proof? You have to move your cursor further to go to settings. You have to use use two keys to see the time, or move your cursor to the edge. The apps waste space. There is a lot of unused space in apps. You can't run it in Windowed mode, it's all full screen.
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by thenerdal View Post
    Metro isn't good for desktops because it's not desktop friendly. It's a fact. It isn't. Want proof? You have to move your cursor further to go to settings. You have to use use two keys to see the time, or move your cursor to the edge. The apps waste space. There is a lot of unused space in apps. You can't run it in Windowed mode, it's all full screen.
    That has nothing to do with a keyboard and mouse. What *SPECIFICALLY* makes windows 8 bad for using a keyboard and mouse?

    This is my point, people keep saying this.. but they can't give any reason.. all they do is talk about other reasons, like full screen. This has nothing to do with a keyboard and mouse.

    There is nothing about Windows 8 that is not keyboard and mouse friendly.
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  6. #16


    Well, Windows 8 isn't that great for a keyboard and mouse because it's touch friendly. Icons are too big, wasted space, etc. Things that make it tablet friendly is why it's not so great for a mouse and keyboard.

    It's like when there were Windows 7 tablets out there. Horrible. Because Windows 7 isn't tablet friendly. It's the other way around as well.
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  7. #17


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Large icons are not bad for a keyboard and mouse. Can you explain that comment?

    It's MUCH easier to use a mouse with larger icons. Especially if you have hand/eye coordination problems.

    Case in point, I don't know about you, but how many times have you accidentally launched the wrong program from the start menu? Many many times in my case. I have never done so in Windows 8.
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  8. #18


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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    It's going back to a discussion about the UI again.

    Superficial distraction.

    People are capable of making choices - if they have the knowledge.

    If not, they can be taken advantage of.

    It isn't hard to understand.
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  9. #19


    Guess neither of us will win this debate. :P Lol.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 142
    Windows 8 Enterprise 64-bit (7 Ult, Vista & XP in V-Box)


    I'm having no trouble at all using a mouse/keyboard or touchpad/keyboard combo on Win 8.

    Even in Metro.

    Once used to it, it's no slower than Win 7, just different.

    After using it for around a year, I feel quite at home with it now.

    A recommendation, though....DO use a mouse with a scroll-wheel, NOT a 3-button jobbie.
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