Solved Numlock - silly little error

Burgurne

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Hello.
Just installed my downloaded Windows 8 Pro (clean install), and I got a little problem. How to turn NumLock ON at boot? I have a pincode instead of the long password for my live-account, so I want to use the numbers before logging in.
 

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Come on, guys. Nobody know of any settings that might help?
It is NOT in the BIOS, as I have a dualboot with Windows 7, and in win7 Numlock in on by default, but not in win8.

I have checked the setting in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\CONTROL PANEL\Keyboard "Initialkeyboardindicators" and in win7 it has a value of 2, and in win8 it also has this value, så it might not be there to change. Numlock is of course turned off BEFORE logging in, so where do I look?
TIA
 

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    Intel Core i5 3570K @4,4Ghz
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    16Gbyte DDR3 1866Mhz
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    GTX770 lightning
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    Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1
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    Logitech G15
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Are there any answers to this? I am also finding that Windows 8 turns off NumLock automatically, even though it is on in the BIOS and the indicator light is also on until Windows starts booting. I tried changing Initialkeyboardindicators to 2 but that didn't help.
 

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    Unicomp "Classic" 104-key
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Maybe this can help you?
Toggle Keys at Startup - Vista Forums

I have gived up at windows 8 and I am now back on a new installed Windows 7 (with MBR and _not_ UEFI). :confused:

I had the same problem in win7, so BRINK send me this link that has a working solution, even it is for Vista.
Try it and see if it works in windows 8 also :D
 

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    MSI Z77A GD65
    Memory
    16Gbyte DDR3 1866Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX770 lightning
    Sound Card
    Auzentech X-Fi Forte 7.1
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2411
    Screen Resolution
    1920*1200
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 840EVO 240Gbyte, Samsung 830 256Gbyte SSD, Seagate 4TB , Western Digital black edition 1,5Tbyte
    PSU
    Zalman ZM850 HP
    Case
    Corsair Carbide 500R
    Cooling
    air
    Keyboard
    Logitech G15
    Mouse
    Logitech G5
    Internet Speed
    60/60mbit fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    BitDefender total security
Did you try to reinstall the driver/software in compatibility mode?
 

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    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
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    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
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    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
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    Logitech G510
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    Razor DeathAdder 3.5
@Burgurne - no, that did not work.

@bassfisher6522 - reinstall the keyboard driver? I checked with Device Manager, and it says I have the latest driver installed. I'm using whatever keyboard driver Windows 8 installed for this computer.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
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    i7-3770k
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    Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133, F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD4000 (on chip)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2711
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Vertex 4 SSD-256GB, Intel X-25M SSD 80GB, Seagate 3 TB, WD 2 TB Green
    PSU
    Seasonic SS-650HT
    Case
    Antec P180B
    Cooling
    ThermalRight HR-02 Macho (air)
    Keyboard
    Unicomp "Classic" 104-key
    Mouse
    Wacom Intuos4
    Internet Speed
    15 mbps download, 2 mbps upload
@Burgurne - no, that did not work.

@bassfisher6522 - reinstall the keyboard driver? I checked with Device Manager, and it says I have the latest driver installed. I'm using whatever keyboard driver Windows 8 installed for this computer.

That's the problem there...those are generic drivers which do not include any software needed to interact with the device and OS. The driver needs to be downloaded directly from Logitech.
 

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    Custom build
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    AMD Phenom II X 4 965 BE
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
    Memory
    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD XFX HD Radeon 6790D
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2l Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB w/OS
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB data storage
    PSU
    Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
    Case
    Thermaltake OverSeer RX 1 fulltower
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510
    Mouse
    Razor DeathAdder 3.5
I don't have a Logitech keyboard. It's actually a Unicomp -- equivalent to an IBM Type M but USB instead of PS2.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
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    Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133, F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD4000 (on chip)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2711
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Vertex 4 SSD-256GB, Intel X-25M SSD 80GB, Seagate 3 TB, WD 2 TB Green
    PSU
    Seasonic SS-650HT
    Case
    Antec P180B
    Cooling
    ThermalRight HR-02 Macho (air)
    Keyboard
    Unicomp "Classic" 104-key
    Mouse
    Wacom Intuos4
    Internet Speed
    15 mbps download, 2 mbps upload
I just searched Bing for "numlock lock windows 8 on" and found many hits that gave solutions that add a registry key for this function.
It's not rocket science afterall, nor is it a Windows 8 peculiar issue. I saw it back in the XP days.
 

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I don't have a Logitech keyboard. It's actually a Unicomp -- equivalent to an IBM Type M but USB instead of PS2.

Sorry about that...that was the OP specs, that's were I got the Logitech keyboard from. Try googling for Unicomp keyboard drivers...or got with the registry edit that you found.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Custom build
    CPU
    AMD Phenom II X 4 965 BE
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4
    Memory
    G-Skill 8 GB PC 8500
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD XFX HD Radeon 6790D
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2l Samsung SyncMaster S20B300
    Screen Resolution
    1600 X 900
    Hard Drives
    Seagate Barracuda 320 GB w/OS
    Seagate Barracuda 1 TB data storage
    PSU
    Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular
    Case
    Thermaltake OverSeer RX 1 fulltower
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper212 120mm
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510
    Mouse
    Razor DeathAdder 3.5
@PJL, no, it's not rocket science. But it doesn't work for me. If you filter through the "hits" you mention, you'll find a few with the same complaint, that the solution doesn't work on Windows 8 for them either.

I'd be interested in hearing from someone who has used the registry fix solution on Windows 8 and confirmed that it works. Have you tried it? I'd love to figure out what the conflict is if it is confirmed to work for others with Windows 8. I am particularly interesting in having NumLock on when the desktop opens (I don't much care about the Metro Start screen). (Hmmm. I'm using Start8. I wonder if that is related? I'll see if I can disable Start8 to check that out.)

@bassfisher6533, I've found no drivers specific to the Unicomp keyboards. I'll try some other keyboards from my stash tomorrow and see if they operate any differently.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
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    i7-3770k
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    Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133, F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD4000 (on chip)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2711
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Vertex 4 SSD-256GB, Intel X-25M SSD 80GB, Seagate 3 TB, WD 2 TB Green
    PSU
    Seasonic SS-650HT
    Case
    Antec P180B
    Cooling
    ThermalRight HR-02 Macho (air)
    Keyboard
    Unicomp "Classic" 104-key
    Mouse
    Wacom Intuos4
    Internet Speed
    15 mbps download, 2 mbps upload
@PJL, no, it's not rocket science. But it doesn't work for me. If you filter through the "hits" you mention, you'll find a few with the same complaint, that the solution doesn't work on Windows 8 for them either.
A registry hack worked for me.
 

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A registry hack worked for me.
ok, I wonder what the difference is? It's helpful to have a positive report, so I now know it's something specific to my configuration.
 

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    Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
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    i7-3770k
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    Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133, F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD4000 (on chip)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2711
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Vertex 4 SSD-256GB, Intel X-25M SSD 80GB, Seagate 3 TB, WD 2 TB Green
    PSU
    Seasonic SS-650HT
    Case
    Antec P180B
    Cooling
    ThermalRight HR-02 Macho (air)
    Keyboard
    Unicomp "Classic" 104-key
    Mouse
    Wacom Intuos4
    Internet Speed
    15 mbps download, 2 mbps upload
I decided it was easier to punt and run a job to set numlock on at logon, using a numlock utility I found on the web. (There are probably lots of such utilities; I just picked the first one I found.)

I did encounter one interesting quirk: if I just run "numlock on" after booting, it doesn't turn numlock on. I must first turn it off with "numlock off" before turning it back on.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
    CPU
    i7-3770k
    Motherboard
    Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Z 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 2133, F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH
    Graphics Card(s)
    HD4000 (on chip)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U2711
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    OCZ Vertex 4 SSD-256GB, Intel X-25M SSD 80GB, Seagate 3 TB, WD 2 TB Green
    PSU
    Seasonic SS-650HT
    Case
    Antec P180B
    Cooling
    ThermalRight HR-02 Macho (air)
    Keyboard
    Unicomp "Classic" 104-key
    Mouse
    Wacom Intuos4
    Internet Speed
    15 mbps download, 2 mbps upload
I have gone into regedit and the value was right. Nothing is working. I know I just have to turn on num lock when I log on but I have a pin number. Go figure thought it would be easier.
Diane
 

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