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Windows 8 licensing

  1. #1


    Posts : 1,127
    Windows 8.1 Pro

    Windows 8 licensing


    Can anyone answer this question for me?


    I'm currently testing the Windows 8 Enterprise Evaluation version on a old HP TX2000 laptop. I'm having some problems because I can't get proper driver support for the Nvidia chipset (I used a modified INF with the most current, but still ancient, driver from laptopvideo2go). I'm also having difficulty installing Windows 8 with my Intel SSD (but works perfectly for my standard hard drive).


    I'd like to get Windows 8 for the laptop because I'm still enjoying the experience. But if I see the same problems with the retail edition, I'd like to instead use Windows 8 on a different PC and revert back to Windows 7 for the old laptop.


    Now for the licensing question... Can I install the Windows 8 Pro edition on another PC? Especially if I delete it off the old laptop? I don't remember how licensing works exactly. I know it's tied somewhat to the hardware being installed on. So I was afraid if I first install on the laptop and it's not a success, that I can't use it on my desktop PC.

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  2. #2


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    There are two versions of Windows 8 Pro. The Upgrade and OEM/System Builder. The Upgrade can be transferred to another PC provided that PC has a licensed copy of XP, Vista or Win 7 installed at time of upgrade and gives you a choice to Upgrade or do a clean install. It has been stated that the OEM/System Builder, under the Personal Use License, can be transferred to another PC that you own but this has not been 100% verified by MS. It does not require a previous version to be on your system. Either version can be on only one PC at a time so needs to be removed from old PC. Under Windows 7 the OEM version is locked to the first PC but looks like that has changed with Windows 8.

    Jim
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  3. #3


    Posts : 1,925
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    The problem is that Windows 8 requires an updated driver model, WDDM 1.2, and the ancient 6150 drivers (even for the hacked drivers) don't support this.

    I think it's unlikely you will ever get Windows 8 to run well on a Go 6150.

    In any event. What you can do depends entirely upon what edition you get. Are you referring specifically to the $40 upgrade? If so, then Microsoft's faq on this matter answers this question:

    Windows Upgrade Offer - FAQ

    "Do I have to install the Windows 8 upgrade on the eligible PC, or can I install it on another PC? The upgrade offer is tied to a Windows 7 PC purchased from June 2nd, 2012 through January 31, 2013, but you can choose to redeem the offer and install the upgrade on any compatible Windows-based PC with a qualifying base operating system. "
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  4. #4


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    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    The problem is that Windows 8 requires an updated driver model, WDDM 1.2, and the ancient 6150 drivers (even for the hacked drivers) don't support this.

    I think it's unlikely you will ever get Windows 8 to run well on a Go 6150.

    In any event. What you can do depends entirely upon what edition you get. Are you referring specifically to the $40 upgrade? If so, then Microsoft's faq on this matter answers this question:

    Windows Upgrade Offer - FAQ

    "Do I have to install the Windows 8 upgrade on the eligible PC, or can I install it on another PC? The upgrade offer is tied to a Windows 7 PC purchased from June 2nd, 2012 through January 31, 2013, but you can choose to redeem the offer and install the upgrade on any compatible Windows-based PC with a qualifying base operating system. "
    First off, I'd really like that thank you guys for helping me out. It's very much appreciated!

    I was looking at the great Amazon deal: $70 for the full Pro edition with a $30 Amazon credit back.

    Amazon.com: Microsoft Windows 8 Pro: Software

    edit: I'm looking at the Amazon thing more closely... is this the upgrade edition???

    I don't want any kind of "upgrade" edition because my experience with the upgrade edition were 2 scenarios:

    1) Either you have to first install the old operating system before you can install the upgrade. So if I ever wanted to build a new PC, I'd have to install Windows 7 first before installing Windows 8. That's a lot of wasted time.
    or
    2) During the installation of the upgrade, you had to put in the old OS disc which would be enough. But I remember a situation where I couldn't find my old disc so until I found it, I was totally stuck. It took me a week to find that disc! That's been my bad experiences with the upgrade version.

    As for the Go 6150, yes, even after getting the hacked driver to work (which allowed me to run the laptop at 1280x800 instead of the horribly stretched 1024x768 Microsoft default driver), I ran into problems when I tried out the Metro version of Netflix. I got an encryption error and an error message about the driver which I assume is because it was not an official driver but a hacked version of an old driver.

    So walk me through the process...

    I install Windows 8 on the laptop. It doesn't run well and will never run well on this laptop. I then decide to wipe out the laptop and go back to Windows 7. I can then install Windows 8 on another PC? I don't have to worry about the Windows 8 being tied to the laptop?

    I read from another forum from another poster that said that until you activate it, it's not tied to any system but once you activate, it's tied. But Phone Man said that's no longer the case? Is there a link I can read that says that?
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  5. #5


    New Zealand
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    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1


    That is the upgrade version on that page. You would want the system builder like this.

    Amazon.com: Windows 8 Professional System Builder DVD 64-Bit: Software

    or this

    Amazon.com: Windows 8 System Builder DVD 64-Bit: Software
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  6. #6


    Covington, La
    Posts : 1,184
    Windows 7 HP 64bit, Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64BIT


    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    The problem is that Windows 8 requires an updated driver model, WDDM 1.2, and the ancient 6150 drivers (even for the hacked drivers) don't support this.

    I think it's unlikely you will ever get Windows 8 to run well on a Go 6150.

    In any event. What you can do depends entirely upon what edition you get. Are you referring specifically to the $40 upgrade? If so, then Microsoft's faq on this matter answers this question:

    Windows Upgrade Offer - FAQ

    "Do I have to install the Windows 8 upgrade on the eligible PC, or can I install it on another PC? The upgrade offer is tied to a Windows 7 PC purchased from June 2nd, 2012 through January 31, 2013, but you can choose to redeem the offer and install the upgrade on any compatible Windows-based PC with a qualifying base operating system. "
    First off, I'd really like that thank you guys for helping me out. It's very much appreciated!

    I was looking at the great Amazon deal: $70 for the full Pro edition with a $30 Amazon credit back.

    Amazon.com: Microsoft Windows 8 Pro: Software

    edit: I'm looking at the Amazon thing more closely... is this the upgrade edition???

    I don't want any kind of "upgrade" edition because my experience with the upgrade edition were 2 scenarios:

    1) Either you have to first install the old operating system before you can install the upgrade. So if I ever wanted to build a new PC, I'd have to install Windows 7 first before installing Windows 8. That's a lot of wasted time.
    or
    2) During the installation of the upgrade, you had to put in the old OS disc which would be enough. But I remember a situation where I couldn't find my old disc so until I found it, I was totally stuck. It took me a week to find that disc! That's been my bad experiences with the upgrade version.

    As for the Go 6150, yes, even after getting the hacked driver to work (which allowed me to run the laptop at 1280x800 instead of the horribly stretched 1024x768 Microsoft default driver), I ran into problems when I tried out the Metro version of Netflix. I got an encryption error and an error message about the driver which I assume is because it was not an official driver but a hacked version of an old driver.

    So walk me through the process...

    I install Windows 8 on the laptop. It doesn't run well and will never run well on this laptop. I then decide to wipe out the laptop and go back to Windows 7. I can then install Windows 8 on another PC? I don't have to worry about the Windows 8 being tied to the laptop?

    I read from another forum from another poster that said that until you activate it, it's not tied to any system but once you activate, it's tied. But Phone Man said that's no longer the case? Is there a link I can read that says that?
    Read this article from Ed Bott. This is where he talks about the new license agreement for the OEM/System Builder Personal Use License which lets you transfer the license. But as I have said it has not been verified by MS. See page two. Also the first thing that is required during install is putting in the key, and then it gets auto activated.

    How the new Windows 8 license terms affect you | ZDNet

    Jim
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  7. #7


    Tropical Island Pair a Dice
    Posts : 3,030
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64/ Windows 7 Ult x64


    From what I got out of Ed Bott's article you can move the OEM/System Builders version to another computer that you own.
    The Upgrade can also be moved to another computer if it has an activated version of XP, Vista or Windows 7.
    If you don't want to worry about having XP, Vista or Windows 7, installed, then the OEM/System Builders version is what you want.

    Just for information, from 26 Oct to 31 Jan you can download Windows 8 Pro upgrade for $39.99.
    Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for $39.99
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  8. #8


    Australia
    Posts : 716
    Windows 7 Ult Reatil & Win 8 Pro OEM


    How much is the OEM/System builder Pro version on DVD disc bought in shop during the offer period?
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  9. #9


    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    How much is the OEM/System builder Pro version on DVD disc bought in shop during the offer period?
    Newegg is running a promo where the Win8 system builder is $69.99 and the Win8 system builder is $109.

    Rod
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  10. #10


    Tropical Island Pair a Dice
    Posts : 3,030
    Windows 8.1 Pro x64/ Windows 7 Ult x64


    From Newegg:

    Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Upgrade
    Upgrade from Windows XP, Vista and 7
    $69.99 (same price at the Microsoft store)

    Release Date: 10/26/2012
    Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM
    $99.99

    Release Date: 10/26/2012
    Microsoft Windows 8 Professional 64-bit (Full Version) - OEM (W/Disk)
    $139.99
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