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old games are very slow

  1. #41


    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Professional


    I've raised this issue on the Technet Forums.

    Windows 8/8.1 DirectDraw Emulation Issues

    This issue is definitely being obscured by less technical and more cosmetic issues in Windows 8 which users have been reporting.

    Does anyone know of perhaps a more direct way to report bugs to Microsoft?

    It would be great if some attention can be brought to the DirectDraw issue so it can be fixed.

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  2. #42


    Posts : 25
    Windows98 to Windows7


    Really happy to see you post that on tech forum.
    The problem while existing with Directx8 , 8.1 emulation, I have also see it with directx9 emulation on windows8 as well.

    The first responses I predict you will receive on that forum will be how to use the compatibiliy features , and all the other basics that one needs to do when running an older game.

    Then ignoring your comments on Windows7 and Vista.

    Like you know how to make it work on Winodows7, but obviously you are an idiot now that you are using windows8

    Seriously, I would be pleasantly surprised to see an answer tackle the issue, even to say.

    Yeah, You're right, it doesn't work, but we aren't doing anything about it. At least that is clear.

    But I certainly would like to see it fixed. Especially with another directx release coming down the pipes.

    The irony to me is that companies were told to use directx as it would be the future and progress and backwards compatiblle, vs opengl which would not be guarranteed to be compatible or even work in the future. Yet here we are over a decade plus later and now open gl seems to be more compatible with Windows 8 then Microsofts own directx.
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  3. #43


    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Professional


    Seem to have got a standard reply as predicted so far. They did state that they would give the information to the dev team and I've asked for some clarification from them. Not sure if they'll reply to the information but it should be interesting.
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  4. #44


    Yep, thats one more reason to keep windows xp installed. It is very good for old/older games, plus its even better for gaming if you have not the best hardware, because all that aero/metro sh|t just cuts gaming performance in HALF !!!... -> i tested that myself. Well, at least keeping dual boot with xp & (7 || 8) is the best decision, that you currently could do in your life.
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  5. #45


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    Posts : 3,093
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit


    I had to setup XP in VMware Player to get my old Still Life to run. It refuses to play past intro no matter what I've tried on 8.1. Hoping someone in the future can come up with and XP emulator similar to DosBox if M$ will allow it. Fat chance I suppose.
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  6. #46


    Yeah, its like 100% that it will not happen, but still, ms is the best of the worst - apple did cut old games support long time ago, while ms still lets 'em run on windows, even if they run like crap, but still run.
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  7. #47


    Widows compatibility with older systems is actually pretty good considering how many changes have been made thru time. Insisting on compatibility with really old stuff would just make already large OS even larger and changes have to be made gradually and that slows down development. Just like all the stuff in life, sometimes comes the time to let go of old things in favor of new ones.
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  8. #48


    Posts : 119
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Widows compatibility with older systems is actually pretty good considering how many changes have been made thru time. Insisting on compatibility with really old stuff would just make already large OS even larger and changes have to be made gradually and that slows down development. Just like all the stuff in life, sometimes comes the time to let go of old things in favor of new ones.
    Bullshit. There's a lot of garbage in windows. But a compatibility layer for old DX, directdraw versions would in the tens of megabytes.
    Just think about it. Emulating a whole PS2 fits in tens of megabytes and these are just measly graphics API's. Even some hobbyists (partially) implemented directdraw for windows 7 when they had issues... The wine project had a near complete emulation...
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  9. #49


    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Professional


    This isn't a compatibility issue per se. It's not going to add to anything by fixing this as the compatibility is already there.

    It's a bug in the DirectX Emulation which requires fixing. The compatibility is already there, just broken. This method for DirectX has been in place since Vista.

    I suspect as stated earlier that these issues like this are being obscured by less technical and more cosmetic issues being repeated over and over again to Microsoft via feedback.

    It really does seem as if something fixable has been overlooked when the DX libraries were modified in Windows 8.
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  10. #50


    Quote Originally Posted by avada View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Widows compatibility with older systems is actually pretty good considering how many changes have been made thru time. Insisting on compatibility with really old stuff would just make already large OS even larger and changes have to be made gradually and that slows down development. Just like all the stuff in life, sometimes comes the time to let go of old things in favor of new ones.
    Bullshit. There's a lot of garbage in windows. But a compatibility layer for old DX, directdraw versions would in the tens of megabytes.
    Just think about it. Emulating a whole PS2 fits in tens of megabytes and these are just measly graphics API's. Even some hobbyists (partially) implemented directdraw for windows 7 when they had issues... The wine project had a near complete emulation...
    That's just what I said, already too much garbage in Windows to ad some more by emulating or making it compatible for few people to play some pre historic games. Software makers should keep up with new OSes, why would everybody suffer with overburdened HW and OS. My video card and monitor can't even display such low resolutions to play very old games. Ho wants them, let them keep old computers just for such occasions. Let rest of us have a modern, lean system to work on. When ever you try to please everyone you end up not pleasing anybody.
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