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old games are very slow

  1. #131


    Posts : 23
    windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by avada View Post
    Anything change in the new build of Win10?
    Nothing yet in terms of the issues. Although i am not expecting it to any time soon i do check every time they have a new build and also remind the guy in charge on twitter. Here is the link again for anyone else who didn't vote to help get the issue noticed. Spread it around to others as well:

    https://windows.uservoice.com/forums...en-in-since-wi


    Man in charge of W10 tech preview twitter:

    https://twitter.com/GabeAul
    Last edited by CT Ralf; 24 Nov 2014 at 17:31.

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  2. #132


    Back to the topic - I use an online downloading site that has emulators preinstalled in the software. Even REAL oldies like Beneath a Steel Sky and The Bards Tale run perfectly. The site does what it says on the kettle
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  3. #133


    Posts : 119
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by elbmek View Post
    Back to the topic - I use an online downloading site that has emulators preinstalled in the software. Even REAL oldies like Beneath a Steel Sky and The Bards Tale run perfectly. The site does what it says on the kettle
    There aren't any emulators for old windows versions and their apis/technologies.
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  4. #134


    There are, via Steam, as I said 'built in'. When I open Beneath a Steel Sky, there is a small dos window opens first, then the game runs. It was downloaded with the software. Graphics are somewhat iffy, but hey, the game works.
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  5. #135


    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Professional


    Quote Originally Posted by elbmek View Post
    There are, via Steam, as I said 'built in'. When I open Beneath a Steel Sky, there is a small dos window opens first, then the game runs. It was downloaded with the software. Graphics are somewhat iffy, but hey, the game works.
    That's probably DOSBox which is an emulator for DOS games. This is not the problem we're having and if it was just DOS Games then we'd be able to sort it by changing the DOSBox settings. DOS games are not an issue.

    This is specifically a problem with Windows based DirectDraw games and there is certainly no fancy emulator for these. DirectX has built in emulation for the old DirectDraw stuff and it worked quite well in Vista/7 however they screwed something up in Windows 8 probably unintentionally.

    The only real workaround would be to play these games in VMware but VMware only really supports DirectX9 which works in Windows 8 anyway. DirectX8 and older games do not seem to run properly in VMware.

    If they aren't going to fix this it would be nice if they just told everyone so we could make alternative arrangements for playing these old games.
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  6. #136


    Posts : 119
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by Vince800 View Post
    That's probably DOSBox which is an emulator for DOS games. This is not the problem we're having and if it was just DOS Games then we'd be able to sort it by changing the DOSBox settings. DOS games are not an issue.

    This is specifically a problem with Windows based DirectDraw games and there is certainly no fancy emulator for these. DirectX has built in emulation for the old DirectDraw stuff and it worked quite well in Vista/7 however they screwed something up in Windows 8 probably unintentionally.

    The only real workaround would be to play these games in VMware but VMware only really supports DirectX9 which works in Windows 8 anyway. DirectX8 and older games do not seem to run properly in VMware.

    If they aren't going to fix this it would be nice if they just told everyone so we could make alternative arrangements for playing these old games.
    Well, you can play directdraw games in virtualbox+XP. But that's not really a solution.
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  7. #137


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by avada View Post
    Well, you can play directdraw games in virtualbox+XP. But that's not really a solution.
    Depends which game.

    But what you mention here might be the best solution after all. Just get the VM resolution/windows size to your needs, the mouse pointer working properly and you're good to go.

    For instance I use Red Alert 2 YR in a VBox XP VM, although the game works on W8.
    The VM facilitates window minimizing without pausing game or changing resolutions: the VM window can easily get minimized even in full screen so you can switch between multiple running instances / programs.
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  8. #138


    Posts : 25
    Windows98 to Windows7


    I am glad this was posted. THank you....


    Quote Originally Posted by Vince800 View Post
    GPUs are in no way the issue with this particular bug now so it must not be involved thus confusing the issue. There are workarounds which involve changing some of the DirectX parameters as explained here Windows 8 strange things and 3d faster in window. The workaround makes the games run much smoother in Windows 8, if it was a GPU issue no amount of workarounds would solve the issue. It's just a stupid overlooked bug in the DirectDraw emulation nothing more, possibly quite an easy fix by someone who knows what they're doing.
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  9. #139


    Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Professional


    You're welcome madmax.

    I wonder if it'll be fixed in this upcoming Windows 10 Consumer Preview. Be interesting to find out if they're fixing real bugs or just screwing around with the GUI, Cortana and other things which aren't integral to the running of the OS.
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  10. #140


    MS fix bugs? I wont be holding my breath
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