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old games are very slow

  1. #111


    Posts : 119
    Windows 8.1


    What's sad is that you can play old console games better, often flawlessly, thanks to enthusiasts who write emulators. The older the console is the better the games run, usually with better graphics.
    But when it comes to windows games, they just become unplayable, and that's that.

    Quote Originally Posted by oneeyed View Post
    And about new games... we're not talking about normal applications here. I play for fun, and new games aren't fun for me at all (I hate all the 3D/FPS stuff).
    I'm not a fan of the quake stile, shoot everything that moves games myself, but there are good fps-es out there that I like. Have you tried NOLF? That's awesome and it's not just about shooting stuff, it's also funny an has decent story. More recent fps games that I liked were bioshock and Bioshock Infinite (They have sophisticated stories).
    My favorite non-fps game would probably be Hogs of War. It's a worms-like (but better) turn based tactics/strategy game.

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  2. #112


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    Posts : 746
    Windows 8 & Windows 7 Dual Boot


    Have you tried DOSBOX?
    I had a video issue with an old game in Windows 7 once, and DOSBOX allowed me to play it with no problems.
    Its been a long time ago so i cant remember the game, sorry..

    RA2!! The simple games are still the best... Youre not carrying 100 different weapons!
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  3. #113


    Quote Originally Posted by oneeyed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Xx3qmxX View Post
    To be honest I would just play new games on your computer which are actually compatible with your graphics card
    Sigh.

    What's with the graphics card compatibility comment ?! The point of DirectX was exactly not to have this kind of problem. Games DO NOT have to be "compatible" with a specific graphic card, only with DirectX which virtualizes all the graphics calls, if something isn't supported it is automatically emulated.
    The problem is Microsoft seems to have introduced some bug in its implementation of older versions of DirectX (or maybe they just dropped it, not certain at this point)... This has nothing to do with the graphics cards. Many games work perfectly with the exact SAME card under Windows 7.

    And about new games... we're not talking about normal applications here. I play for fun, and new games aren't fun for me at all (I hate all the 3D/FPS stuff).
    But I think this is a lost cause, I've never heard any MS officials acknowledge there is a problem at all... So they aren't interested and don't care. This is fine for me. Ever since Windows 8, I've played all my old windows games under Linux. It needs more tinkering but it's ok.
    Some games do insist on particular DirectX compatible video card and would not install or run without it.
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  4. #114


    I have steam, and the games I 'nicked' off my sons account have dos emulator built in, as well as other eumlators depending on the game. I download a trilogy of which only the last one works though.
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  5. #115


    Posts : 23
    windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by oneeyed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Xx3qmxX View Post
    To be honest I would just play new games on your computer which are actually compatible with your graphics card
    Sigh.

    What's with the graphics card compatibility comment ?! The point of DirectX was exactly not to have this kind of problem. Games DO NOT have to be "compatible" with a specific graphic card, only with DirectX which virtualizes all the graphics calls, if something isn't supported it is automatically emulated.
    The problem is Microsoft seems to have introduced some bug in its implementation of older versions of DirectX (or maybe they just dropped it, not certain at this point)... This has nothing to do with the graphics cards. Many games work perfectly with the exact SAME card under Windows 7.

    And about new games... we're not talking about normal applications here. I play for fun, and new games aren't fun for me at all (I hate all the 3D/FPS stuff).
    But I think this is a lost cause, I've never heard any MS officials acknowledge there is a problem at all... So they aren't interested and don't care. This is fine for me. Ever since Windows 8, I've played all my old windows games under Linux. It needs more tinkering but it's ok.
    Some games do insist on particular DirectX compatible video card and would not install or run without it.
    which game? If there was one it has to be very rare and even then a patch can fix it. The issue in this thread however is that the games work but in half the frame rate that they do in Windows 7.
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  6. #116


    Quote Originally Posted by CT Ralf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by oneeyed View Post

    Sigh.

    What's with the graphics card compatibility comment ?! The point of DirectX was exactly not to have this kind of problem. Games DO NOT have to be "compatible" with a specific graphic card, only with DirectX which virtualizes all the graphics calls, if something isn't supported it is automatically emulated.
    The problem is Microsoft seems to have introduced some bug in its implementation of older versions of DirectX (or maybe they just dropped it, not certain at this point)... This has nothing to do with the graphics cards. Many games work perfectly with the exact SAME card under Windows 7.

    And about new games... we're not talking about normal applications here. I play for fun, and new games aren't fun for me at all (I hate all the 3D/FPS stuff).
    But I think this is a lost cause, I've never heard any MS officials acknowledge there is a problem at all... So they aren't interested and don't care. This is fine for me. Ever since Windows 8, I've played all my old windows games under Linux. It needs more tinkering but it's ok.
    Some games do insist on particular DirectX compatible video card and would not install or run without it.
    which game? If there was one it has to be very rare and even then a patch can fix it. The issue in this thread however is that the games work but in half the frame rate that they do in Windows 7.
    [SOLVED] Directx 11 question
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  7. #117


    Posts : 119
    Windows 8.1


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Umm. What's the point of this? Apart from seeing someone giving the worst advice possible?
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  8. #118


    Quote Originally Posted by avada View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Umm. What's the point of this? Apart from seeing someone giving the worst advice possible?
    Just one of games that will not run without DX11 HW.
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  9. #119


    Posts : 23
    windows 7


    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by avada View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Umm. What's the point of this? Apart from seeing someone giving the worst advice possible?
    Just one of games that will not run without DX11 HW.
    An old card not running a high end game is not a surprise. I don't expect a 2005 card to run a high end game like Ryse today. That always made sense. In the future however any card you have that even supports DX12 for example will run the game so that is never going to be an issue.
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  10. #120


    Well the problem is with older cards and games that do not support them, not new ones and it's not only a matter of "high end game" but of compatibility with DirectX being that expected or not. There is also a problem with the "power" of some video cards even if they are compatible on paper at least. So, you'll never have full compatibility of GPUs and all the games, there's always going to be a problem and saying "that is never going to be an issue" is a bit over optimistic.
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