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Xbox's Adam Orth Doesn't Get 'always on' Concerns

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    Xbox's Adam Orth Doesn't Get 'always on' Concerns


    Don't want a gaming console that requires a persistent internet connection? "Deal with it" says Microsoft Studio's creative director.

    But what about a gaming console that needs an internet connection just to play games? Well, according Adam Orth, the creative director of Microsoft Studios, it's no big deal, and people should just deal with it. In fact, he'd like every device to be always on.
    Read more at source:
    Xbox's Adam Orth doesn't get 'always on' concerns - Games: PC, DS, PlayStation, Xbox & Wii

    And #dealwithit I will, it the same way I deal with every other company who's business practises I don't like. By voting with my wallet and not buying from them. Idiot.

    What part of we refuse to require an internet connection in order to use a product don't they understand? Are they really that stupid?

    Sorry, rant over. I think I'd probably get banned if I said what I really thought about 'clouds' and always on DRM.

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    yeah, it's a not a huge issue, even if it's true, Xbox gamers already are the most network-connected and socially connected. And people will migrate en masse because their friends are on Xbox.

    But a ton of people with Xbox's have extensive friends' networks. People are constantly hopping from party to party and being with their friends. To get this new generation of kids to switch to another platform, you're going to have to convince them and until you do, they stick with that they're used to.

    The people that don't have their Xbox connected to the Internet or play single player only are the people least likely to spend money. You find groups of people buying games together on the Xbox all the time. I keep getting bombarded by friends trying to get me to buy this game or that game. And I keep telling them, maybe, when it's on sale and if it's good. And then we're all in party and half of them are playing that game and the other half are playing other things.

    The people that are heavily Internet-connected do not mind being connected to the Internet. Seriously, is COD worth playing when not hooked up to the Internet? Is BF3 with no Internet any good? Heck, a lot of my friends won't play Minecraft by themselves. Because they all like to build together and chat about what happened during the day.
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    i've got an Xbox360 and it's always connected to the network. Most games I play are multiplayer games, and I chat with friends and such while I play.

    However, I've been burned by BF3 and Diablo III on the PC when I've experienced network problems between myself and the server. In the event of BF3, I was out for nearly a week, as I was unable to hit the login site to even get into the game. It wasn't my ISP that was down, it wasn't that BF3 was down, but there was a network problem that prevented return traffic from routing back to my particular ISP. It was hard to convince anybody on the support end that I was down and couldn't use my software.

    During these outages, I couldn't play the game period. no single player, nothing. That sucked.
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    that's because BF3 is an EA game. I tend to avoid EA games because of the sole reason that EA demands that they run their own servers and thus can turn servers on and off at a whim. they've retired games that are only a year old.

    I remember Grid. Codemasters ran their own servers on every platform except the Xbox. They turned off the servers early on the PS3 and the PC. But because Microsoft was in control, Codemasters was powerless to turn off the servers because they didn't control the situation.
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    Well, Diablo III wasn't an EA game. And there was a fair amount of non-playable down time after that game was released due to internet issues.
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    here's the dreaded EA service updates link. so many games have died before their time...

    Service Updates

    no wonder EA has been voted worst company in America 2 years in a row...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    here's the dreaded EA service updates link. so many games have died before their time...

    Service Updates

    no wonder EA has been voted worst company in America 2 years in a row...
    No, no, no. The only reason EA were voted as the worst company in America is just because they're a big company. Nothing at all to do with their business practises. One of their execs said so himself, so it must be true.

    He also stated that the always on-line function was nothing to do with DRM. So, if it's purpose is for the customers benefit and not their benefit, then surely they will have no problem listening to the publics dislike of it and give them the option to disable it if they want to.
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    I do not have a problem with "always on" generally, as long as it doesn't infringe on gameplay. After all, my PC is "always on" and if I had a console, it would be "always on/connected also".

    I do have a problem, when "always on" means that my gaming experience is dependent on one companies maintenance practices, or when a bug that should've been realized/fixed before release makes it in release therefore affecting my gameplay.

    And I have a HUGE problem, with a console being "always on" and not only needing to pay for an ISP connection - but also a sub for a service supplied by the consoles manufacturer just to play multi-player games.
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    it's looking like the "always on" for gaming actually applies to the rumored $99 Xbox 360 console since it doesn't have an optical drive and is meant to counter AppleTV, Google TV, Roku, etc.

    Microsoft Xbox Roadmap (2013) -

    Microsoft is working hard in its new strategy for the next years. The company wants to expand its Xbox brand with two new Xbox. One would be next-gen, the other one would be a new redesign for Xbox 360. Take in mind the Wii Mini, MS would like to offer something similar to Nintendo. This cheap model would be focused as a set top box product, although you will be able to load games too, but the games should be load directly from the HDD. This Xbox wouldn’t have disc drive.

    When the Durango (game machine) launches, it will not support backwards compatibility for 360 games out of the box. Instead, this functionality will come from the other unit that will be networked with the Durango to provide this (not unlike the DVD add-on for the original Xbox).

    The purpose of the smaller Xbox unit is to compete with Apple TV, but also provides XBLA and 360 game support which will give it an edge over Apple TV. The rumors of “always online required” comes from the smaller Xbox unit which may not have a disc drive and like Apple TV it would require a network connection and internet to provide any real functionality. It may be possible they will design both consoles to be stackable.

    Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games. Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately. By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware. Microsoft’s delay in announcing these products from April goes more inline with not having a physical set of devices to show (among specification updates), which should be ready by May or June when this information is officially released.
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