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  1. #21


    Posts : 1,127
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    you do realize that in 3-4 months, a lot of this info has to be updated. it's always better to start asking this stuff when you're fairly close to actually buying so that the recommendations and prices fit.

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  2. #22


    Does the mother board hold more than 8 GB of ram will I even need more than that.
    In terms of RAM 16GB will handle most complex tasks, including heavy gaming, but if you plan to edit HD content 32GB wouldnt be a luxury.
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  3. #23


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    Just for the record, I would never go more than 8G of ram period on any gaming rig and that is too much.
    You will never use it, ever, it's waste.

    Put that money into a better video card, even if it is cheap for the extra RAM, that's where you want it in a gaming rig.
    Remember, your performance in gaming will be in the GPU, and CPU, not in the amount of ram you have.
    The speed of ram can make some difference, but you don't need to be on the cutting edge of that either.

    Video cards are not what they used to be in the old days.
    Which is why they are referred to GPU's and not video cards in the technical sense.
    GPU should have good high memory and clock speeds on the card. that's all you need to watch out for.

    Suggest no less than 4G of ram and would not ever go more than 6G on any gaming rig.

    If you want to do more, such as Video creation, and I don't mean just rendering and editing already created video or pulling from a camera, the more ram the better.
    But 4 to 6G of ram for simple video is plenty there as well.

    Unless you are going to be running multiple Virtual Machines on a regular basis, creating Large Videos or HD Video, and I don't mean simple editing, or working with huge Audio (multi-track creation like orchestra type stuff) you will never ever need that much ram.
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  4. #24


    Posts : 50
    Windows 8 Pro (64 Bit)


    For gaming you won't see a performance difference between a 4gb rig and an identical 8gb rig, the only time you are likely to need more than 8gb is if you are dealing with large photo files, a professional photographer that spends several hours a day working on RAW photo files taken on a 22 megapixel camera would see a performance advantage in having 16gb or more ram, but someone that's playing a bit of Skyrim and some MMORPGs wouldn't

    In terms of ram speed, increasing my ram speed from 1600mhz to 1866mhz made no difference to the performance of my rig, in benchmarks I actually scored about 1% less with the faster ram but this could just be down to the normal spread of scores, as my scores are usually fractionally different after every run.

    For video ram 4gb seems a lot, I have 2gb and using MSI Afterburner to watch how much ram is used I don't think I ever see that being utilised fully, if you are planning on running a 1080p display I think 2gb would be ample, if you are running a 2560x1600 display or running three screens for gaming then you would want to consider more ram as this will help a lot in those situations.
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  5. #25


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    Posts : 466
    Windows-10-Pro-Build-11099.rs1-x64


    Quote Originally Posted by chiumiento View Post
    As far as RAM goes, please be aware that Ivy Bridge Intel cpu's only run at DDR3-1600 by default. Unless you overclock within your BIOS, you aren't going to go over 1600 anyway.

    Memory like the G.SKill 16G(4x4G)DDR3 2133Mhz PC3-17000(F3-17000CL11Q-16GBXL) I use, support XMP, which is one simple memory-profile change in the Bios, to get the RAM running with 2133MHz.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    Suggest no less than 4G of ram and would not ever go more than 6G on any gaming rig.

    Even that I don't play the kind of games the Thread-Starter play's, I would recommend a minimum of 8GB RAM as there are already games available which recommend up to 8GB of RAM for maximum Graphic-Settings.


    Crysis-3 System-Requirements

    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chiumiento View Post
    !. I want at least a 4 core processor and I want it 3 GHz or gigher
    Some games take advantage of quad core CPU's, while others do not. And the frequency (speed) is not as important as the architecture itself. But most of the core i5's and Core i7's are going to run at 3.0Ghz or above anyway.
    This is correct.

    If you play MP-Online-Games like Battlefield-3 or Guild-Wars-2, then you will get use out of your Multi-Core-CPU, as this kind of games demand more CPU-Power when the amount of players on a server increases.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtyvu View Post
    you do realize that in 3-4 months, a lot of this info has to be updated. it's always better to start asking this stuff when you're fairly close to actually buying so that the recommendations and prices fit.


    +1

    We will possible already have Haswell + Socket 1150 and Ivy-Bridge-E (Socket 2011), which will hopefully show some effect in the prices for older hardware.

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  6. #26


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    If you buy a retail cpu, the fan will come with it and will have paste already applied. Just set it on the cpu, and press the locking pins down. It's simple.
    I did not know that. that is sweet. But can I get a half decent CPU this way?
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  7. #27


    Quote Originally Posted by chiumiento View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    If you buy a retail cpu, the fan will come with it and will have paste already applied. Just set it on the cpu, and press the locking pins down. It's simple.
    I did not know that. that is sweet. But can I get a half decent CPU this way?
    Um...I'm unsure what you mean. You can buy any CPU in retail packaging. So yes, you can get an absolutely great CPU this way, or a mediocre CPU, or a budget CPU.
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  8. #28


    You can get MB Asrock Z77 E4 + CPU Core I5 3570k + 8GB DDR3 1600 for ~US$ 500,00
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  9. #29


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chiumiento View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    If you buy a retail cpu, the fan will come with it and will have paste already applied. Just set it on the cpu, and press the locking pins down. It's simple.
    I did not know that. that is sweet. But can I get a half decent CPU this way?
    Um...I'm unsure what you mean. You can buy any CPU in retail packaging. So yes, you can get an absolutely great CPU this way, or a mediocre CPU, or a budget CPU.
    I was talking about the thermal paste being already applied to the CPU when you buy it.
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  10. #30


    Posts : 1,127
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    when you buy a retail CPU, it comes with a basic heat sink and fan. on the heat sink is usually a thermal pad which functions like thermal paste. so all you have to do is merely attach the HSF to the CPU. eventually, you're going to want to replace the thermal pad with thermal paste for slightly better performance.

    the basic HSF that comes with a retail processor is fairly basic. if you want your CPU to run cooler, you're going to need a better HSF and the third party companies supply much better ones that are quieter as well. I have a Noctua and it's amazing. super quiet. pulls off tons of heat. it's a beast of a HSF but it's totally worth its money:

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