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Windows 8 and Red Alert 2 Yuri

  1. #51


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    Windows 8.1 Pro 64Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkForceX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Have you guys tried Ares?
    Ares - A Yuri's Revenge Expansion DLL

    This should be the most compatible "patch" available. Replaces ddraw and npatch.

    See readme file they provide in download.

    I'm gonna post my results for this one on Win8 after I test it.
    Dear Hopachi. Thank you very much. the Ares patch solved the biggest problem (YR Lag on Windows 8.1 x64). But now i have a second issue. i used to have a screen resolution patch for YR. ( the one where you need to write ''hires'' in main menu of YR to have more resolution options in the Options ). There i can select 1920x1080. When i start a game. The game runs on full speed. The screen is ajusted correctly as 1920x1080. But now i have a problem with the mouse pointer. i can select the mcv and deploy it. but i cant move my mouse to the right side of my screen. Also when i open in game options with clicking on ''ESC'' on my keyboard i cant click on '' abort game'' or ''resume game'' Any ideas why? and how to fix this. I can feel i am near. almost done. after i fix this problem it means that i can fully use YR on windows 8.1 like i want to. Thanks for reading. I will wait for a response.
    Hello DarkForceX, welcome to the forums!

    Seems to be a weird issue and I'm not sure I fully understand the mouse part. If this post(s) info still don't fix it, try posting a screenshot if it might help out showing the issue.

    Ok, first of all, make sure the resolution is added in the RA2MD.ini file (see previous posts for the ini) because the ingame menu's will use it too. I'm not aware of any resolution patches so far because it simply worked in the ini. The main menu's use always 800x600. Other issue is that the game starts in 16bit color so you'll have to use compatibility mode with reduced color mode to 16bit. I don't think Ares was designed to accept other patches since it's a patch by itself. Once you add the resolution to the ini, the game should be OK with it. Some game-mods may add other ini files or set extra resolution settings but a normal-flavored game works fine with the usual ini, be it in full-hd.

    Cheers!
    Hopachi
    Thank you for your fast response. I managed to see that i had edited the ra2.ini file and not ra2md.ini. i thought that ra2.ini was for both ra2 and yr i did not even know that there was a ra2md.ini file :S how genius am i ?. so that was the mistake . i dont even have to use Ares patch because i added the VideoBackBuffer=no ​line (under Video) in ra2md.ini. and dont even need to use the resolution patch since you teached me to edit the resolution of the screen simply in the ra2md.ini. Thank you very much for helping this out This is absolutely a great helpful forum!. i can play Yuris Revenge on Windows 8.1 Pro x64 without any problems!.

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  2. #52


    1. thumbs up for you as you still play this awesome game
    2. i had the same problem but i got it solved -check ingame options-
    3. my problem which do still exist is that yuri's revenge exe is working but RA2.exe doesn't work
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  3. #53


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by DarkForceX View Post
    Thank you for your fast response. I managed to see that i had edited the ra2.ini file and not ra2md.ini. i thought that ra2.ini was for both ra2 and yr i did not even know that there was a ra2md.ini file :S how genius am i ?. so that was the mistake . i dont even have to use Ares patch because i added the VideoBackBuffer=no ​line (under Video) in ra2md.ini. and dont even need to use the resolution patch since you teached me to edit the resolution of the screen simply in the ra2md.ini. Thank you very much for helping this out This is absolutely a great helpful forum!. i can play Yuris Revenge on Windows 8.1 Pro x64 without any problems!.
    It works! Nice!

    You're welcome.
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  4. #54


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Zaref View Post
    3. my problem which do still exist is that yuri's revenge exe is working but RA2.exe doesn't work
    RA2 is a bit older but the same or related settings should still apply.
    You should try the RA2.ini and add settings there (videobackbuffer and resolution). Also check the compatibility settings (16bit color mode and if it still fails, compatibility XP SP2/3 or Win98/ME).
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  5. #55


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    Hopachi,
    Thanks for the guide. I have a slight issue:
    Setup:
    Host New iMac 27" running mavrick
    VM: VirtualBox
    Guest: Windows 8

    Issue:
    I have the game working, game speed is good, only issue is the mouse courser when on the battlefield. I get 2 coursers, the in-game green one as well as a windows courser. Not a biggie, but for the fact that the windows courser runs at full speed but the RA2 courser lags behind.

    I have had possible 2 improvements (but not 100% solutions):

    1. reduce the resolution. I'm using the resolution tool to get full resolution of the iMac. This is the worst lag. If I reduce it, it improves. However, reducing the resolution does not stretch the screen. So the courser will go off the game window and not scroll the map. (I know about the right click scroll, but still you can still lose the mouse off the game window). But the whole point is to play FULL screen.

    2. turn off mouse integration from VBox. I like this solution, because I believe it is the root cause of the issue. However, by doing so, I lose the mouse in the RA2 menus and pause menus. Therefore, almost impossible at such high resolution to even try to guess where the "Start Game" button is , etc.. However, once inside a battle, I only get the in-game courser and no lag, which is good! But the problem remains, no menu screen courser = for ever to even start a game.

    Anyone else with this dilemma?

    Thanks in advance
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  6. #56


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Hass, welcome to the forums.

    1. Reduce the resolution
    VirtualBox doesn't stretch, scale mode is half-stretch sibnce you still keep window borders... The stretch has to come from the host OS (Maverick) and not the guest (Win8).
    I don't know if you have Retina display or what the native resolution is you're using but OS X allows to change resolution to lower not-native mode: in case that succeeds, try some from the list during the game of course. So you'll have to apply the same lower resolution in the VM, ra2md.ini.

    2.Turn off mouse integration
    It's an idea but you should try all modes before deciding: USB/tablet/absolute-pointing-device or PS2 mouse modes.
    The thing is that the native resolution is pretty high so the lag might not be fixable by just changing mouse settings. First things you should try to increase graphic memory size in the VM.
    For example: for a 2560 x 1440 I'd go above 32mb for sure. Running 3D acceleration might not fix it since the accelerated VM drivers are not quite stable. You can also test it out in a XP VM and see if it's snappier as a VM for the game.

    Good luck.

    Regards,
    Hopachi
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  7. #57


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    windows 8.1


    Hello, I am new to these forms and I created this account to try and get Red Alert 2 to work on my laptop. I have a Windows 8.1 64 bit with 8 gb ram and intel core i7-4800Mq 2.7GHz.

    I downloaded Ra2 from the Ultimate edition and I initially had a lot of problems. I added VideoBackBuffer=no and that fixed almost all of my problems. I also installed the CNC fixed launchers (found herehttp://www.commandandconquer.com/forums/index.php/topic/26695-fixed-launchers-for-the-ultimate-collection/) so that I could add argument modifications to the game launchers.

    I must first state that the game runs perfectly in almost all scenarios. I have only one issue, windowed mode. I did have to edit the properties of all the exe files to be in windows xp package 3 compatiblility mode with 16 bitto even get windowed mode to work. When I run the game with "-win" I get these issues:

    imgur: the simple image sharer
    imgur: the simple image sharer

    As seen in the screenshots, the color pallet is almost solely green and purple. Also, the visible screen is always half the screen resolution the right side. The input,however, is still positioned for the full resolution. Is there any way to possibly get this game to work in windowed mode for me? I ideally don't want to use an more 3rd party programs (I love using the mental omega mod with ra2, and it also works fine, but not in windowed mode.
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  8. #58


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8


    Iv'e been trying to play YR on a Dell Venue 8 Pro and I can't get the game to start without a mouse. I get "A mouse is required to play Red Alert 2(Yuri's Revenge)" message depending on the game I'm trying to run. Anyone get these games to work with a Windows tablet?
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  9. #59


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Tony1A View Post

    I must first state that the game runs perfectly in almost all scenarios. I have only one issue, windowed mode. I did have to edit the properties of all the exe files to be in windows xp package 3 compatiblility mode with 16 bitto even get windowed mode to work. When I run the game with "-win" I get these issues:

    imgur: the simple image sharer
    imgur: the simple image sharer

    As seen in the screenshots, the color pallet is almost solely green and purple. Also, the visible screen is always half the screen resolution the right side. The input,however, is still positioned for the full resolution. Is there any way to possibly get this game to work in windowed mode for me?
    Thank you for the input.

    The posted screenshots are exactly what I get on Dune 2000 but ONLY if I minimize the fullscreen game and then maximize again (colors get distorted with gray and purple, and half the screen). Basically that's how 16bit color games look on 32bit resolutions.

    I didn't find a solution either.

    It seems that 16bit resolutions are entirely gone for the W8 desktop modes so I believe the game in windowed mode will never run properly if it can't support the available 32bit color modes.

    You'll have to stick to full screen or run the game from a VM that can be windowed without issues (check other posts about running it in VirtualBox or VMware Player).
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  10. #60


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by chaotix000 View Post
    Iv'e been trying to play YR on a Dell Venue 8 Pro and I can't get the game to start without a mouse. I get "A mouse is required to play Red Alert 2(Yuri's Revenge)" message depending on the game I'm trying to run. Anyone get these games to work with a Windows tablet?
    Interesting!

    Never tested that one without a mouse...

    If the game itself reports that a mouse is required than it looks like there is an internal check: mouse events are probably the only thing implemented + some keyboard buttons but it's an old game so there is no way touch events would get recognised.

    Theoretically you'll have to install a mouse emulator that can translate mouse input to touch. I don't know anything in particular but that already exists for keyboards and joysticks so it is possible to get something similar for a mouse, an app for that.
    (discussed here: https://www.eightforums.com/tablet-to...use-touch.html)

    Good luck.
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