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Windows 8 and Red Alert 2 Yuri

  1. #41


    Posts : 3
    Windows 8


    Hi Guys,

    I am desperately trying to get Red Alert 2 working on my two laptops at home to I can play/beat my housemate over a LAN game.

    He has a Windows 7 laptop whilst I am running Windows 8.

    Originally, I successfully managed to install RA2 (from The First Decade) on both laptops and both ran the game. We managed to get a networked game started using the wsock32.dll patch to get over the IPX issue. However, after about 5 minutes, my laptop (Win 8) would hang and the connection drop out (I'm not sure why this was??).

    I am now trying to run the game in a WinXP VirtualBox. I've installed the VirtualBox on both laptops with WinXP SP3; and also the IPX network driver.

    My network settings for VirutalBox are "Attached to: Bridge Adapter" and these are connected to the wireless adapters on both laptops.

    I have also manually set the IPX adapter settings to the following on both laptops:
    Internal Netwokr Number: 00000000
    Frametype: Ethernet 802.3
    Network Number: 00000001

    However, when I start the game, I cannot see the other laptop (I can ping the other laptop from the cmd prompt, so they can see each other).
    Are there any other settings that I need to change or am I overlooking anything??

    Any help would be much appreciated.
    Many thanks,
    Jonny

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  2. #42


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    You are one step ahead here Jonny: I never used LAN game over VirtualBox on 2 PC's.

    The network address range has to match between the two pc's VM's... I would try NAT besides Bridged as well.

    In VBox, there are different networking settings to test, see this too:
    https://blogs.oracle.com/fatbloke/en...in_virtualbox1

    Apart from that, make sure the game uses 2 different keys for the 2 installations in order for the games to see each other.

    Good luck.
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  3. #43


    Orbiting the Moon
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    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyollet View Post
    I am now trying to run the game in a WinXP VirtualBox. I've installed the VirtualBox on both laptops with WinXP SP3; and also the IPX network driver.
    Don't forget the XP VM's default firewall (on/off) and in case it's ON to allow the game.

    I recommend you keep using wsock in the VM's as well, UDP is faster than IPX and you have less delay between the two connections.
    I believe you already have the official RA2 1.006 patch installed. In case of yuri's revenge, try applying Npatch after v1.001 to fix some extra general issues.

    Is this also networking? I've checked all options even firewall.
    Here on 2 pc's: trying to create a LAN lobby between two machines named PC1 and PC2.
    During the game, PC1 is not able to see PC2 but PC1 can create a new game and PC2 can join and it will work this way.
    Try to switch between the one who creates and the other who joins to see if this applies.
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  4. #44


    Posts : 1
    Windows 8.1

    Yuri's Revenge possible solution for ManwithDog:


    Hi Manwithdog,

    I had exactly the same issue as you and even tried all the same things you had, and it was enough for me to go back to Windows 7 as well...

    However, I recently thought I might have another go at fixing this, and I have discovered that Microsoft has removed Directdraw under Windows 8, and that games that use 16 bit colour can have this sort of problem. They have, however added an emulation layer for Directdraw.

    Long story short, you can force games under Windows 8 to use Directdraw emulation with a registry setting.

    Here is a cut and paste of the settings that fixed the problem for me:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00


    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\RA2MD.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\gamemd.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\Ra2.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"


    This assumes that RA2/Yuri is installed in the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge" folder. I'm guessing that you would know how to import the above into the registry, but if you didn't, you simply open notepad, paste the above in and save it as yuri.reg, then exit notepad and double click on the yuri.reg file.

    I apologise in advance if someone else has already posted this fix, but was so pleased with myself for finding a solution that I had to tell someone !

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  5. #45


    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Hi Manwithdog,

    I had exactly the same issue as you and even tried all the same things you had, and it was enough for me to go back to Windows 7 as well...

    However, I recently thought I might have another go at fixing this, and I have discovered that Microsoft has removed Directdraw under Windows 8, and that games that use 16 bit colour can have this sort of problem. They have, however added an emulation layer for Directdraw.

    Long story short, you can force games under Windows 8 to use Directdraw emulation with a registry setting.

    Here is a cut and paste of the settings that fixed the problem for me:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00


    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\RA2MD.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\gamemd.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\Ra2.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"


    This assumes that RA2/Yuri is installed in the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge" folder. I'm guessing that you would know how to import the above into the registry, but if you didn't, you simply open notepad, paste the above in and save it as yuri.reg, then exit notepad and double click on the yuri.reg file.

    I apologise in advance if someone else has already posted this fix, but was so pleased with myself for finding a solution that I had to tell someone !

    Thank u very much!!!!U r great!!But when I minimizar YR to side bar,YR can't back to window,how to slove this?
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  6. #46


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by samoer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Hi Manwithdog,

    I had exactly the same issue as you and even tried all the same things you had, and it was enough for me to go back to Windows 7 as well...

    However, I recently thought I might have another go at fixing this, and I have discovered that Microsoft has removed Directdraw under Windows 8, and that games that use 16 bit colour can have this sort of problem. They have, however added an emulation layer for Directdraw.

    Long story short, you can force games under Windows 8 to use Directdraw emulation with a registry setting.

    Here is a cut and paste of the settings that fixed the problem for me:

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00


    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\RA2MD.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\gamemd.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\Ra2.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"


    This assumes that RA2/Yuri is installed in the "C:\Program Files (x86)\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge" folder. I'm guessing that you would know how to import the above into the registry, but if you didn't, you simply open notepad, paste the above in and save it as yuri.reg, then exit notepad and double click on the yuri.reg file.

    I apologise in advance if someone else has already posted this fix, but was so pleased with myself for finding a solution that I had to tell someone !

    Thank u very much!!!!U r great!!But when I minimizar YR to side bar,YR can't back to window,how to slove this?
    Good question.
    I have the same issue with Dune 2000 too. The resolution switches to 32bit when the game is minimized and DOESN'T switch back properly or at all to 16bit when maximized again...
    Code:
    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers]
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\RA2MD.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\gamemd.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    "C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Command And Conquer Red Alert 2 Yuri's Revenge\\Ra2.exe"="$ DWM8And16BitMitigation Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation"
    Those registry entries look interesting, might give those a try. But DirectDraw is available in the features in 8.1.

    We are a few who noticed this issue, I'll post here If I find something.

    Cheers!
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  7. #47


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    About Graybeard's registry entries...
    See link for more details:
    Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 Operating Systems

    I didn't had time to test it yet.
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  8. #48


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    About Graybeard's registry entries...
    See link for more details:
    Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8 Operating Systems

    I didn't had time to test it yet.
    I've tested those for Dune 2000 which requires 16bit color: it doesn't help out in this case with the minimizing thing. I guess this will have not much effect for Ra2 Yuri either since those entries (DWM8And16BitMitigation) add some support that the compatibility mode adds, but not for minimization (toggle the 16bit mode on/off is needed). The Layer_ForceDirectDrawEmulation doesn't work for Dune 2000 (black screen) but it's worth a try in Yuri, ONLY to fix some display (directdraw) issues. I still guess it has no effect for window/game minimization. If you use Npatch or Ares.dll then some of the serious directdraw issues will be fixed so the game ought to work better on Win7 and 8 with these patches.

    The fix for minimization and correct restoration for 16bit fullscreen color mode programs still has to be discovered on Win8/8.1.
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  9. #49


    Posts : 2
    Windows 8.1 Pro 64Bit


    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Have you guys tried Ares?
    Ares - A Yuri's Revenge Expansion DLL

    This should be the most compatible "patch" available. Replaces ddraw and npatch.

    See readme file they provide in download.

    I'm gonna post my results for this one on Win8 after I test it.
    Dear Hopachi. Thank you very much. the Ares patch solved the biggest problem (YR Lag on Windows 8.1 x64). But now i have a second issue. i used to have a screen resolution patch for YR. ( the one where you need to write ''hires'' in main menu of YR to have more resolution options in the Options ). There i can select 1920x1080. When i start a game. The game runs on full speed. The screen is ajusted correctly as 1920x1080. But now i have a problem with the mouse pointer. i can select the mcv and deploy it. but i cant move my mouse to the right side of my screen. Also when i open in game options with clicking on ''ESC'' on my keyboard i cant click on '' abort game'' or ''resume game'' Any ideas why? and how to fix this. I can feel i am near. almost done. after i fix this problem it means that i can fully use YR on windows 8.1 like i want to. Thanks for reading. I will wait for a response.
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  10. #50


    Orbiting the Moon
    Posts : 2,975
    Windows 10 x64


    Quote Originally Posted by DarkForceX View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hopachi View Post
    Have you guys tried Ares?
    Ares - A Yuri's Revenge Expansion DLL

    This should be the most compatible "patch" available. Replaces ddraw and npatch.

    See readme file they provide in download.

    I'm gonna post my results for this one on Win8 after I test it.
    Dear Hopachi. Thank you very much. the Ares patch solved the biggest problem (YR Lag on Windows 8.1 x64). But now i have a second issue. i used to have a screen resolution patch for YR. ( the one where you need to write ''hires'' in main menu of YR to have more resolution options in the Options ). There i can select 1920x1080. When i start a game. The game runs on full speed. The screen is ajusted correctly as 1920x1080. But now i have a problem with the mouse pointer. i can select the mcv and deploy it. but i cant move my mouse to the right side of my screen. Also when i open in game options with clicking on ''ESC'' on my keyboard i cant click on '' abort game'' or ''resume game'' Any ideas why? and how to fix this. I can feel i am near. almost done. after i fix this problem it means that i can fully use YR on windows 8.1 like i want to. Thanks for reading. I will wait for a response.
    Hello DarkForceX, welcome to the forums!

    Seems to be a weird issue and I'm not sure I fully understand the mouse part. If this post(s) info still don't fix it, try posting a screenshot if it might help out showing the issue.

    Ok, first of all, make sure the resolution is added in the RA2MD.ini file (see previous posts for the ini) because the ingame menu's will use it too. I'm not aware of any resolution patches so far because it simply worked in the ini. The main menu's use always 800x600. Other issue is that the game starts in 16bit color so you'll have to use compatibility mode with reduced color mode to 16bit. I don't think Ares was designed to accept other patches since it's a patch by itself. Once you add the resolution to the ini, the game should be OK with it. Some game-mods may add other ini files or set extra resolution settings but a normal-flavored game works fine with the usual ini, be it in full-hd.

    Cheers!
    Hopachi
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