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  1. #11


    Posts : 25
    8 Pro + MCP


    it's no point waiting with buying hardware for windows 8.
    it will be compatible anyway, upgrade from 7 to 8pro will be cheap as chips if you'll ever decide to go for it.
    intel released ivy bridge not so long ago (i've got my 3770K from one of the first retailers in UK who has had them in stock) and i can say that even sandy bridge is all you need. (there is a few advantages of ivy tho - like sata3 and pci-e2).
    another major update will be ivy extreme -more cores, higher clocks (which is extreme - pretty much only for oc maniacs), and then another year (at least) for new manufacturing process.

    current cpu's like 2600K, 3770K (or even non-K versions, if you don't plan to overclock) are more than enough for photo editing.
    i am working on RAW from Nikon D7000, so already quite big files, and can't see any space for improvement on my computer
    (mentioned 3770K, 16GB 1866MHz Ram, ssd for system and raid-strip for storage, still without any gfx card till next month, currently working on hd4000 which is built-in in my cpu)

    gpu-wise geforce gtx 670 is the way to go (oc'd versions like gigabyte windforce can perform better than stock 680's with still significant difference in price)
    prices of ssd went down massively (ocz agility 3 is well performing budget solution), for data storage, swap, cache etc go for raid on 'oldschool' hdd (strip)


    reassuming - if only you don't have D800 (36MPix is great, but omfg 100MB RAW files) or hasselblad-like stuff, you'll be more than happy of current intel cpu's, you don't even need top graphics card - this is ONLY for gaming. 8GB of good fast memory is more than enough. ssd + stripped hdd's. just don't ever think about saving on motherboard, psu and case!
    mobo is good to get 'gamers grade' like for example asus ROG or Sabertooth series.
    case - big, spacious and well designed inside. one of the best which isn't too expensive is CoolerMaster HAF X. I can suggest few more good cases in different price ranges.
    psu - it feeds all your components with power. has to be reliable.

    screen - as good as you can afford.
    for what i'm doing LG IPS235 is enough.
    if you can afford EIZO, go for it. so far best screens for any job that requires good color reproduction.
    ...but built-in calibrator is 'spare gadget' which imo is way too expensive, you can get spyder4 or colormunki and calibrate virtually everything around you. they are industry's leading solutions and are relatively cheap.

    any more questions - i'm more than happy to help

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  2. #12


    Quote Originally Posted by Submarine View Post
    Finally, I am ready to build a new computer. It will have a fast Intel processor, a top of the line GPU, a SSD for OS and programmes, as many USB 3 connections I can get, a top of the line monitor, and it will mainly be used for photo editing with CS6 and LR4. Should I wait for the launch of Intel's new processors and for W8 or just go ahead right now?
    What new Intel CPUs would you wait for? The only ones I'm anticipating are the Extreme versions of the Ivy Bridge processors (similar to the relationship between Sandy Bridge and Sandy Bridge E), and those aren't due until the second half of 2013.

    I suppose that there's no such animal as a high-end graphics monitor that is also a touchscreen, but I don't know for certain. I can imagine using a separate trackpad, maybe keeping another device for precision work, but I can't imagine holding my arms out in front of me, unsupported, for hours at a time.

    I don't know what to recommend. I'm a casual Photoshop CS5 user; seems to be OK with Win 8 RP.
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  3. #13


    Quote Originally Posted by zbaracki View Post
    current cpu's like 2600K, 3770K (or even non-K versions, if you don't plan to overclock) are more than enough for photo editing.
    Holy cow, I would say so. My current desktop is still running on a Q9550 CPU from Intel and there is nothing thus far that it's not handling that I need. It works perfect for my gaming (BF3 and Diablo III), my photo and video editing (Sony Vegas Movie Studio) and rips DVD's and handbrake encodes them with ease for my tablet and phone.


    Quote Originally Posted by zbaracki View Post
    screen - as good as you can afford.
    for what i'm doing LG IPS235 is enough.
    if you can afford EIZO, go for it. so far best screens for any job that requires good color reproduction.
    ...but built-in calibrator is 'spare gadget' which imo is way too expensive, you can get spyder4 or colormunki and calibrate virtually everything around you. they are industry's leading solutions and are relatively cheap.
    Yeah, monitors are so often over looked but such a vital component. I always find it funny how people will overclock everything, water cool it all, put in extra case fans and neon lighting, and will look at it 100% of the time on a crappy flat panel that's color is just awful.
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  4. #14


    Posts : 25
    8 Pro + MCP


    Quote Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
    I always find it funny how people will overclock everything, water cool it all, put in extra case fans and neon lighting, and will look at it 100% of the time on a crappy flat panel that's color is just awful.
    hah, well said but PC modding is different world, as well as gaming.
    for gaming IPS display with it's brilliant viewing angles and color reproduction is next to useless due to relatively slow response time, in extreme situations it can be the slowest component of whole system with 6-8ms gray to gray. so here comes tn or pva - high end models with 2ms gtg, color matching isn't that important.
    and modding is for the sake of having it totally customized, and sqeezing every single MHz, which you won't ever use. just to prove to yourself, that you can digits, tables and benchmarks look exactly as good even on a totally burnt b&w crt.

    for what I do - some photoshop and lightroom - mentioned lg ips235 is good enough. factory calibration isn't perfect, gamut could be better (i wanna get 30bit panel, arrrrgh ;P) but for amateur on budget it is perfect choice.

    note one more thing - if you don't work with multimedia as a full time professional (prints, video releases etc), and effects of your work in ps and lr will be shown to 'the world' via internet, then you don't need professional monitor. you will get everything right, but 99,999% of people have their screens uncalibrated, they simply won't ever see the right colors as intended by you.




    i have nice watercooling, active ram cooling, got ccfl's, loads of fans, fan controllers, reached stable 4,8GHz on cpu (ivy bridge) and 2133MHzCL9 on ram. then reverted to stock frequencies (and undervolted it) to get as low temps as possible.

    and still I would say - decent case and decent psu is mandatory. not for the look, but for all of your other components.
    poorly designed cheap case can look nice from outside, but will provide no airflow. your power hungry cpu, gfx and chipset on motherboard will be working too hot and it will shorten their lifespan. lack of good cooling is the main reason why heavily used consoles (ps3, xbox) are dying between 1 and 2 years. you don't want to do it with your workstation.
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  5. #15


    Posts : 11
    W7 Ultimate x64


    Thanks all for good advice. Have 5D mkII, and edited files tend to become ~500 MB. I have decided to go for a monster monitor, have had too much problems with my current, and honestly, is it not nice to have really good stuff? I know I could get excellent monitors cheaper. I have been spending quite a considerable time learning photo editing, but have so far mainly worked with pictures for screen. Now turning focus over to print, I find my current screen is insufficient. Have a Spyder Elite for calibration, but monitor is too poor for quality printing. No plans on OC-ing. PS will benefit from a fast processor, plenty of memory, fast disks and USB 3 for backup. SATA III is future, and I do not build computers every year. I understand ordinary HDDs will not benefit much from that, especially when working with big files. PS is not that GPU critical, but I will need one that can deliver 10 bit colour. Yet most gaming GPUs theoretically can, few have drivers to support it. GPU will anyway be decided after discussion with Eizo. Hope to get some time next week to draw up a draft spec.
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  6. #16


    Dell U2410 is a great monitor. Around $550 for a 24" display.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 11
    W7 Ultimate x64


    Pparks1, yes the Dell is used by many people for Photo Editing. It seems a nice monitor, yet I understand it has varied a bit between individual monitors, or so I hear. Could be other explanations, of course.

    Zbaracki, the CoolerMaster HAF X seems an impressive case. Huge. Not planning to have any water cooling though, regular air cooling will suffice for me, especially now for my first build. On the negative side, it seems the two hot swappable bays in the front, require the disks to be screwed in place. A bit odd. Then, maybe it is not that quiet? Otherwise it looks very nice. I did a spec a year ago or so but got stuck on the case and the GPU. I will get help with the latter, and have anyway learnt more about that by today. Case is still a big questionmark though. If you want, say 8-10 USB ports on the back of the HAF X, where do you put them?
    I am considering having two hot swappable disks on the front for backup purposes and/or perhaps raw files. These need be easy to remove and replace as I would need to do that on a running basis. Then I need to have a flexible, safe and fast backup program. Currently a full file backup to an external HDD over USB2 takes days with W7 backup. Looked at this some years ago, and at the time, ShadowProtect looked as a good candidate. May have changed by now.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 636
    Windows 7/8


    Quote Originally Posted by Coke Robot View Post
    Windows 8 is great!
    Serious question. Do you get paid per post to pop in and say things like that completely out of the blue? It's starting to sound a bit unbelievable...
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  9. #19


    Posts : 64
    Windows 8


    For Backup why don't you try a good NAS ?
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  10. #20


    Posts : 11
    W7 Ultimate x64


    Quote Originally Posted by yousaf465 View Post
    For Backup why don't you try a good NAS ?
    Too slow.
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