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Enclosed USB mSATA SSD doesn't get recognized on ultrabook

  1. #11


    Germany/Florida
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    This is indeed a puzzling problem. The suggested power problem is unlikely. A USB3 port should provide plenty of power for a SSD which consumes very little power. I run SSDs in enclosures from USB2 ports that provide a lot less power than USB3. It is more likely that there is a driver problem. The driver for your enclosure may not be properly installed.

    The suggestion that KYHI makes to work with an image is a good option. You will, however, need 2 USB3 sticks. A 64GB stick will be plenty to store an image of your 80GBs (the compression will downsize it to a bit over 50GB). The size of the second stick will depend on the imaging approach. That stick you will need for the recovery program with which you boot the PC to transfer the image to your new SSD. If you use a program like Macrium Reflect, a recovery stick of 1 or 2GB will suffice. If you use Windows imaging, you will need a stick that can hold a system recovery file which you can create from your recovery partition. That can require up to 32GBs.

    If you need further details on either approach, post back.

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  2. #12


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    Windows 8.1 x64


    Clintlgm, thank you for your help.
    Why would the hub require power from the ultrabook if the hub is itself powered by the net/wall outlet (~220V)?
    I'm asking Samsung support what the power output of the 2 USB 3.0 ports on the Samsung ATIV Book 9 Plus is right now, and when I know I'll get back to you.
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  3. #13


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    Windows 8.1 x64


    whs, thank you for your reply as well.
    I am glad that you agree that a power shortage is very unlikely, especially since its USB3 and since the hub has its own power supply, which sole purpose is to overcome power shortage.

    While I don't have a 64GB USB stick, I do have a 500GB external USB HDD and an 8GB USB stick.
    So (please correct me if I'm wrong), if I understand you correctly, I could do the following:


    1. Clone my current OS image to an external USB HDD (which tool should I use for that?)
    2. Replace the old SSD with the new one.
    3. Boot from my 8GB USB stick that has a tiny version of windows on it installed (windows PE?) and that has the same cloning tool.
    4. Run the tool again (on this Windows PE USB stick) to clone the image back from the external USB HDD to the new mSATA SSD.


    If you could confirm that this can/will work, I will proceed. Please let me know which cloning tool would be best for this procedure.

    This is of course assuming that the Windows PE will recognize both the new mSATA SSD (which is now inside the ultrabook) and the 500GB USB HDD.
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  4. #14


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    1. Boot from my 8GB USB stick that has a tiny version of windows on it installed (windows PE?) and that has the cloning tool.
    2. Clone my current OS image to an external USB HDD
    3. Replace the old SSD with the new one.
    4. Boot from my 8GB USB stick that has a tiny version of windows on it installed (windows PE?) and that has the same cloning tool.
    5. Run the tool again (on this Windows PE USB stick) to clone the image back from the external USB HDD to the new mSATA SSD.

    I also believe he too mentioned macrium - which is included in my pe

    hell, may not even need to make a backup image - you may be able to clone old SSD in external enclouser to the new internal ssd. But you need bootable media with cloning/backup software
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  5. #15


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    Windows 8.1 x64


    Dear KYHI, thank you for confirming this. Alright, I will first try to boot from the USB drive, and see if the enclosed new 500GB mSATA SSD gets recognized, if not, I will do it in the way we described above.

    I have one final question though. Since I already hooked up the new mSATA SSD to my desktop PC once, and it got initialized on that PC (formatted, and then I assigned a drive letter and a name "Samsung SSD"), will it still be suitable for primary boot drive (i.e. will it still be able to hold an OS image and will it be seen as a bootable disk?). I don't know much about bootable and non-bootable drives, but I do know there's a difference, and I hope that I didn't make my new mSATA SSD non-bootable by plugging it in as an external drive and formatting it for first time use. Do you think Macrium will check wether the SSD is bootable, when I put the image on there?
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  6. #16


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Although I usually recommend to use free Macrium Reflect for imaging tasks, you may have an easier option since you have a WinPE stick. Check whether that allows you to initiate a Windows 8.1 recovery when booted from that stick (see picture below). If yes, you can make an easy image via an elevated command prompt. The command is:

    wbadmin start backup -backupTarget:X: -include:C: -AllCritical -quiet

    Where you have to replace 'X' with the drive letter of your external disk where you want to place the image. That image will include C and the system partition (triggered via the AllCritical parameter). The recovery to your new SSD would then work via the Advanced Options of the WinPE stick.


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  7. #17


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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    The fact the new ssd was installed, formatted, is or is not bootable > does not matter..
    doing a system clone will overwrite any boot record or partition table on the ssd
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  8. #18


    Posts : 9
    Windows 8.1 x64


    @KYHI: OK thanks for letting me know.

    I already have a USB stick (8GB) which is bootable because I have a Windows 8.1 iso on it. Can I just use Rufus to format the USB stick and put your Win81SEx64 on it?
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  9. #19


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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    no need for rufus - windows format will work just fine - Fat32 or Ntfs
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