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Possible SSD failure ?

  1. #51


    There you go but now I'm having trouble with one of my SSDs, noticed IO error when trying to make backup with Reflect, seems like there are some bad sectors but at different places according to different programs. Going to safety erase it, fill up with zeroes and put backup back on. If that doesn't help it's going RMA way Monday.

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  2. #52


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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    There you go but now I'm having trouble with one of my SSDs, noticed IO error when trying to make backup with Reflect, seems like there are some bad sectors but at different places according to different programs. Going to safety erase it, fill up with zeroes and put backup back on. If that doesn't help it's going RMA way Monday.
    Errors seen in SMART or where ? So far so good been using this SSD for 4-5 days, hopefully time will tell this time, iam getting impatient waiting. Good thing for cloud storage and saves, didn't loose my game saves. When i now for sure, i will RMA the other SSD. Hopefully before Christmas
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  3. #53


    SMART was clear no indications of anything wrong but Macrium reflect was refusing to make backup because of IO error. Checked with Easus PM and HDD Sentinel and each showed bad sectors but in different places. Windows checkisk didn't show any.
    Anyway, I safety erased it, zeroed whole thing again and restored last Reflect backup. Probably because I changed MB after that last backup windows didn't work well so I installed 8.1 again and I'm now in process of installing all the programs again. All is working perfectly again. Must have been a software glitch.
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    Wait did you say had to change the motherboard ? Never used Macrium Reflect as others swear by it, even for cloning drive. If you restored backup still lost all your software ? As much as it's easier to recover from system image, sometimes there are errors this way. Prefer long drawn out clean install, even though requires hours of putting back all your updates and software compared to image which is more practical. Hope works out well as i do for myself. New version of Macrium Reflect sure you have it.
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  5. #55


    My old MB died couple of weeks ago so had to get new one. As it was a bit newer, drivers were not same so after first restart screen stayed black after windows started. Macrium backup image was with old drivers. Found it easier to start from scratch. Those windows were started from Win 8 than updated to 8.1 etc. so they are few years old. Lost inexplicably some drivers like for security cameras so it was really right time to start from ground zero. I keep all programs to be installed on spare HDD so all I have to do now is to reinstall the. Problem is, there's more than hundred of them.
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    I see it now. I always have my stuff on external drive backed up, sometimes even 2 drives in case one failed. Not that much software on my system, just basically ones i need. SSD have sectors like hard drives, this is what confuses me about SSD, it's just memory chip. Then running chkdsk how it works with them compared to HDD, do you need to use chkdsk on SSD .
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  7. #57


    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    I see it now. I always have my stuff on external drive backed up, sometimes even 2 drives in case one failed. Not that much software on my system, just basically ones i need. SSD have sectors like hard drives, this is what confuses me about SSD, it's just memory chip. Then running chkdsk how it works with them compared to HDD, do you need to use chkdsk on SSD .
    SSDs are logically different than spinners but windows still thinks it's the old way. Actually even HDDs have different physical and logical layouts so FW in disks have to convince windows it's all going their way. Other OSes handle that logical part differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    I see it now. I always have my stuff on external drive backed up, sometimes even 2 drives in case one failed. Not that much software on my system, just basically ones i need. SSD have sectors like hard drives, this is what confuses me about SSD, it's just memory chip. Then running chkdsk how it works with them compared to HDD, do you need to use chkdsk on SSD .
    SSDs are logically different than spinners but windows still thinks it's the old way. Actually even HDDs have different physical and logical layouts so FW in disks have to convince windows it's all going their way. Other OSes handle that logical part differently.
    Yeah no spinning or moving parts. Just didn't think used word sectors for SSD, knows my knowledge of correct words of components and workings of a SSD not in my vocabulary yet. Brings me back to thoughts of when you first put an SSD in system some used WEI to make system recognize what it was, other then a typical HDD sets it appropriately. Not sure really need to do this, saw it somewhere once.

    All i know is i use error check within properties of the disk in explorer along with trim command, occasional SMART check.
    As we speak, drive has not been playing hide and seek. Have not put all games back on yet or put more Data back on other drive, this is it.


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    My understanding is the SSD firmware basically sets up the solid state memory similar to a HDD with sectors, cylinders, heads and such. Something like "heads" doesn't really apply but is made that way in the firmware for compatibility. Definitely not like raw RAM just sitting there to be used as needed in a sequential fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by popeye View Post
    My understanding is the SSD firmware basically sets up the solid state memory similar to a HDD with sectors, cylinders, heads and such. Something like "heads" doesn't really apply but is made that way in the firmware for compatibility. Definitely not like raw RAM just sitting there to be used as needed in a sequential fashion.
    Just some of the terms do not seem like they apply to a device with no moving parts, cylinders and heads to me. Sounds like a motor part.
    Well SSD are sort of like memory. more similar i felt to thumb drive or SD without the other parts and firmware.
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