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CLONE FAIL SAMSUNG SSD to Samsung SSD Fails on every PC

  1. #1


    Japan
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    Windows 8.1 Build 9431

    CLONE FAIL SAMSUNG SSD to Samsung SSD Fails on every PC


    CLONE FAIL FAIL FAIL

    So I have a Haswell i7 rig (GTX 780) with Platinum PSU etc etc... W8.1 Pro (and a few other W8.1 PC`s I tried the clone op with also)........

    .... and on the SSD to clone in question, it is a Samsung EVO 250Gb SSD. It seems to work perfect.
    But its getting near full~ish.... (30Gb spare)....

    ... so I bought a Samsung EVO VNAND 500Gb.... (twice the capacity) and thought an easy clone was in store....

    (I also have some additional drives I have just disconnected for the Clone op [as the Samsung clone software was being stupid [trying to get me to clone my documents drive to my new SSD]). With or without the other drives connected, it FAILS, FAILS, FAILS.

    So; when I try to clone, It gets to about 33% cloned, and then fails.
    Time after time.

    Recent ERROR MESSAGE is:- "Failed to retrieve source information 205500(0322bc)"

    I tried to clone the SSD to SSD on a CLONE machine/Box. A FAIL
    I tried to clone using Macrium Reflect. A FAIL
    I tried to clone using EASEUS. A FAIL.
    I tried them all a few times including the SAMSUNG CLONE Software.
    FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL



    What am I doing wrong?

    Is there a problem with the 250Gb SSD I don`t know about (I am using this PC with it in now)...

    Or will a SAMSUNG EVO not clone to a SAMSUNG VNAND ?

    Do I have to try everything including disabling features such as RAPID MODE? And Disable Performance and everything?

    Or what???

    I have been a dozen hours trying to do this simple task.

    P.S.
    I tired to contact SAMSUNG; but as I bought the SSD`s from Amazon, their help website gives me the brush off.
    And I dont want to send them back; as they both work (I installed a bare W8.1 onto the VNAND and it ran great [But I have thousands of files and links to the other hard drives; and programs etc etc etc and it would take me a month of part-time work to get them all linked properly... so I PREFER To CLONE.

    It should be easy.... so....

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  2. #2


    Create a recovery CD with Macrium(Win PE Rescue), back up your current SSD to an external HDD, install 500GB SSD and boot with rescue CD( Win PE) and restore the image from the back up with Macrium Reflect.
    Or
    Try this utility, I have cloned with this a while ago: AOMEI Windows Backup, Cloning, and Recovery Software
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  3. #3



    Trying to Sith things out
    Bamberg Germany
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    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Do you mean you used Samsungs migration software? I never had a problem with it. Check BIOS in case something got changed (AHCI is on). Original disk)128GB) plugged into Disk 0 SATA connecter and new disk(500GB) plugged into Disk 1 connecter and all other disk unplugged.
    brummyfans technique woks real good to (used it on my old laptop).
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  4. #4


    Japan
    Posts : 43
    Windows 8.1 Build 9431


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Create a recovery CD with Macrium(Win PE Rescue), back up your current SSD to an external HDD, install 500GB SSD and boot with rescue CD( Win PE) and restore the image from the back up with Macrium Reflect.
    Or
    Try this utility, I have cloned with this a while ago: AOMEI Windows Backup, Cloning, and Recovery Software
    Will try that. Thank you.

    Will Google `Win PE` as I do not know if that is part of Macrium or Part of Windows.
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  5. #5


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    Windows 8.1 Build 9431


    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Do you mean you used Samsungs migration software? I never had a problem with it. Check BIOS in case something got changed (AHCI is on). Original disk)128GB) plugged into Disk 0 SATA connecter and new disk(500GB) plugged into Disk 1 connecter and all other disk unplugged.
    brummyfans technique woks real good to (used it on my old laptop).
    I have also never had a problem with Samsung migration software when running a traditional hard drive and cloning to the SSD.

    But I guess you have NEVER tried `MIGRATING` your W8.1 Drive Installation from a Samsung SSD to a traditional hard drive.
    Samsung MIGRATION always refuses to do that. (I wanted to have a clone of my Samsung SSD on a traditional hard drive as a back up)
    I guess you have also NEVER tried MIGRATING from 250Gb Samsung SSD to a 500Gb Crucial SSD.
    Samsung will not let you MIGRATE to a different SSD.
    I tried that first, and got their middle finger. Time after time... (I wanted to try the slightly less costly Crucial 500Gb which arrived with no software)

    So I bought a SAMSUNG EVO VNand 500Gb SSD (and put the Crucial M550 in an old XP rig [running relatively slowly]).

    As for the BIOS.... Good call maybe....
    (Should AHCI be on or off?)

    Original SSD is plugged into the lead SATA... (good call again).
    And I had tried `Migrating then Cloning` both WITH the other H/D`s connected; then Without, then with....

    Will try brummyfans techniques....
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  6. #6


    Quote Originally Posted by rogerthat1945 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Create a recovery CD with Macrium(Win PE Rescue), back up your current SSD to an external HDD, install 500GB SSD and boot with rescue CD( Win PE) and restore the image from the back up with Macrium Reflect.
    Or
    Try this utility, I have cloned with this a while ago: AOMEI Windows Backup, Cloning, and Recovery Software
    Will try that. Thank you.

    Will Google `Win PE` as I do not know if that is part of Macrium or Part of Windows.
    It's from Macrium, I have attached the links for instructions:
    v5: How to create a disk image (Backup, Image, v5)
    Create a Windows PE Rescue Environment
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    7/8/ubuntu/Linux Deepin


    You don't to need d/l anything extra to create bootable winpe media.

    Click image for larger version
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    Trying to Sith things out
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 2,290
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    One more thing I just thought of. What version of Samsung migration tool do you have?
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  9. #9


    Japan
    Posts : 43
    Windows 8.1 Build 9431


    Quote Originally Posted by brummyfan View Post
    Create a recovery CD with Macrium(Win PE Rescue), back up your current SSD to an external HDD, install 500GB SSD and boot with rescue CD( Win PE) and restore the image from the back up with Macrium Reflect.
    Or
    Try this utility, I have cloned with this a while ago: AOMEI Windows Backup, Cloning, and Recovery Software
    So, I had an older spare 100Gb drive, but not a 250Gb one..... which I need to do that.... So I reduced the size of the partitions in my childs new laptop and cloned the contents to that..., and then wiped that 500Gb spinning drive.

    Then went to do the Macrium Reflect image....

    and part way through... this message... ;-

    "Backup aborted! - Failed to Create Volume Snapshot. Result Code: 0x80042306"


    Awwwww. Damn n blast.
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  10. #10


    Japan
    Posts : 43
    Windows 8.1 Build 9431


    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    One more thing I just thought of. What version of Samsung migration tool do you have?
    Samsung Ver 2.7

    All cloning and things fail;not just Samsungs...

    So, I did a reboot chkdsk /f

    will try again.
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