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SSD misread on Windows (attempting to clone drive)

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    SSD misread on Windows (attempting to clone drive)


    I have a Samsung 850 Pro fresh out of the box, and I'm hoping to clone my old Seagate onto this SSD, and then use it as my primary boot drive. If possible, I'd like to do this without reinstalling windows and all my programs.

    The drive is recognized on Windows (once I initialized it in Partition Manager, per Samsung's FAQ instructions) as a 250gb drive, but it is not displaying as an SSD in the Defragment dialog, nor is the Samsung Magician software recognizing it. This leads me to believe I've not set this up correctly as an SSD, and I want to get this resolved before I clone the drive with Samsung's software.

    I have the drive connected through a USB cable to a board that's from a USB Hard Drive. The connection interface is the same (Sata 2?) so I assumed I could clone the drive while the SSD was plugged in to USB, and then swap out the internal HDD with the new, cloned, SSD (I run a laptop therefore only one drive slot). Perhaps the USB connection is screwing up how the SSD is being read?

    I don't have any experience with SSDs, so I'm looking for help here. I'm anxious about messing up this 250 dollar purchase, so any advice is welcome. Thanks!

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    Your specs say the Seagate is 500GB but your Samsung is only 250GB. You can use Macrium Reflect to "clone" the first disk to the second provided that the USED space on the first disk is smaller than the total space on the second.
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    The space is smaller, I can fit it. But Windows is not recognizing my SSD properly.
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    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    Samsung SSD Downloads | Samsung SSD

    http://www.samsung.com/global/busine..._Setup_v27.zip

    You do not want to clone your HDD to SSD - you want to migrate your data over from the HDD to SSD
    due to the smaller size
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    Look, I explained this in my original post, if you guys would take the time to read it. I have the software installed, I know how to transition the flipping data. Windows is not reading my SSD as an SSD, but as an HDD, and consequently the Samsung software won't even recognize the drive. I have Samsung data migration installed. I know how to migrate the drive -- once I get to that point. But I'm not there yet because of this recognition error.
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    I've installed the program but I'm continuing to have problems with the disk. Again, I think this is a deeper issue, not related to cloning my files in any way. I don't need any more links to how to clone my files.

    When I connect the SSD, it often doesn't show up in my 'Computer' folder. Additionally, partition manager doesn't continue to show it as initialized -- I have to do this every time I plug it in. Further, AOMEI cannot complete operations on it. Just want to emphasize this: I don't need help cloning my drive. I have deeper issues with the SSD (that I've described in my first post and this one) that need resolving first.
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    Via this thread (Samsung 840 EVO - Magician/Migration doesn't recognize it [Solved] - SSD - Storage) I've discovered that my hard drive enclosure can cause problems: "...many external enclosures cause driver issues with the SSD causing the Migration program to not detect it. MAgician is made to not detect the SSD until it is plugged internally." Thus, I've bought a regular USB-->SATA cable and it should come on Monday. Once that's bought, hopefully the magician will detect my SSD, I can secure erase it, and clone my hard drive.

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    Look, I explained this in my original post, if you guys would take the time to read it. I have the software installed, I know how to transition the flipping data. Windows is not reading my SSD as an SSD, but as an HDD
    I figured you where a PC guy.. And that you know windows can not go on a removable drive,, ie USB
    I also figured you would have formatted the SSD to match the partition structure of the OS - instead you have to initialize it every time..

    I see you posted a link, and purchased a new sata to usb adapter..

    You could also use Macruim to make a system image of the HDD and then restore that image to the SSD..

    An SSD is a harddrive with not moving part, nothing special required..

    But you said you had that covered.. And you made no mention of anything about your system..

    many external enclosures cause driver issues with the SSD causing the Migration program
    thus the link to Aomei partition assistant..
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    Look, I'm not trying to cause any arguments here, I'm just trying to work through a frustrating process. Given that the Samsung Drive Transfer software runs on Windows, and I run a laptop with only one drive bay, I figured there wasn't another way to clone the drive except through an external connection. I bought the adapter in hopes of circumventing this. All I want to ultimately do is get all of my HDD data onto the SSD, with Windows recognizing it as a proper SSD (no defrag, optimized for performance).

    How can I make/restore images without using an external connection? One of the drives, either the SSD or the HDD, has to be external since I only have one drive bay. My system specs are in the 'My system specs' button.

    Even with Aomei, I can't read/modify the SSD through the faulty SATA cable I have, which is why I ordered another. My hope is to connect the SSD with the correct cable, clone the data, whether through EaseUS, Samsung's software, or Aomei (I don't care which at this point), and then after that slip the SSD into the main drive bay and boot from it (perhaps running the Windows repair disk in the middle to smooth over any issues from the cloning).

    Is any part of this process faulty, and if so, what should I do to fix it?
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