Is my CPU hot?

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Long story short, I had to return an AMD 8350 due to a faulty memory controller. AMD fortunately sent me a replacement, but I'm wondering if it's running too hot - and am I reading the temps correctly in CUPID HWMonitor? I've now reinstalled this processor two times - as per below:

(1) Upon the first install on this motherboard, the temps were waaaaay too hot. It was running up to 70 degrees C, in under 10 minutes while I was using Prime95 as a stress test... so turned off the computer and I reapplied thermal grease (OCZ Freeze), and added a second fan to the liquid cooler setup. One fan on each side of the radiator. I also turned off cool n quiet in the bios to maxamize the liquid cooling pump. The cooler is an Antec 620.

(2) Running Prime95 for 20 minutes, I'm getting these numbers - are these reasonable, or do I have a problem, and am I interpreting the results correctly? ie) which one is the cpu socket vs. the actual cpu?
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edit , I think I might have been wrong .just ran the program on mine and my temps are way less than yours ,sorry for the miss info

no ,those are ok temps for you computer
can see all the app that running ,but one could be video card chip. the amd fx one is the motherboard processor

prime95 can over stress the cpu to push up the temps

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My opinion, Prime95 is overkill and can stress a system way over what any intense game can or what the system is designed to handle be it a desktop or laptop. I won't run it personally.
 

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when changing the cpu did you make sure it had the right amount of thermal past, not to much ,just a nice even thin coating is good
 

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On your version of HW Monitor you get only "Package" temperature, not by core. Package temp can go to 90c on that processor before shutdown, core temps should not go more than 62 -63c. CPUID HW Monitor - professional can show Core temps too. Take note that those processor "lie" about temps at idle but those are not too important anyway.
 

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Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm glad to hear that I'm not crazy again. I've was using prime95 as it accurately diagnosed a faulty AMD 8035 processor (issue with memory controller - it was fully troubleshooted elsewhere on this forum), and it's a decent stress-test. I just wanted to ensure that my new CPU was 100% a-ok :)

Interestingly enough I let my computer sit idle for about 10 hours -- nothing was open except evernote -- and I was shocked to look at these temps.. why the wide variation up to 70c... can't make sense of it. Maybe, as you say Mike, there's a lie in the max value somehow.

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I can hardly believe your temps... unreal low. what do you have on the cpu, liquid nitrogen?

edit , I think I might have been wrong .just ran the program on mine and my temps are way less than yours ,sorry for the miss info

no ,those are ok temps for you computer
can see all the app that running ,but one could be video card chip. the amd fx one is the motherboard processor

prime95 can over stress the cpu to push up the temps

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I can hardly believe your temps... unreal low. what do you have on the cpu, liquid nitrogen?

edit , I think I might have been wrong .just ran the program on mine and my temps are way less than yours ,sorry for the miss info

no ,those are ok temps for you computer
can see all the app that running ,but one could be video card chip. the amd fx one is the motherboard processor

prime95 can over stress the cpu to push up the temps

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Being near 80°C with my 4770 at full load is quite fine to me, but something better than my Corsair H-60 would be a good move !
 

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    ASUS Z87-Plus
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    32GB DDR3 @ 1822 MHz (OC)
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I'm glad to hear that I'm not crazy again. I've was using prime95 as it accurately diagnosed a faulty AMD 8035 processor (issue with memory controller - it was fully troubleshooted elsewhere on this forum), and it's a decent stress-test. I just wanted to ensure that my new CPU was 100% a-ok :)

Interestingly enough I let my computer sit idle for about 10 hours -- nothing was open except evernote -- and I was shocked to look at these temps.. why the wide variation up to 70c... can't make sense of it. Maybe, as you say Mike, there's a lie in the max value somehow.

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There's thing called "Temperature offset" which is about 10c for late AMD processors and those programs may or may not calculate it in their measurement. It can make larger difference than room temperature change so it's not exact science. On those processors there is a pin (forgot now exact designation) that transmits that "Package " temp and it's from the base of the processor. That one is usually higher than "Core temp" whose sensor is on processor's die for each physical core. That one is more important than package temp because it shows temps at contact surface with cooler. Difference between those two temperatures triggers core or whole processor shutdown if reaches some set temperature set by MFG.
Most MB manufacturers have their own temperature, fan speed etc. programs and may be more accurate.
Just looking at Fan speeds and looks like your pump may not be running at full speed, I believe it's FANN1. Can you check with cooler's manufacturer what it's full speed should be ?
 

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63°C is fairly warm, but not hot.

You should never use benchmarking programs to determine your maximum temps because they intentionally stress your system beyond realistic real-world scenarios.

What are your temps when you are maxing out your system with your normal programs? If they don't stay above 60°C more than few seconds, I don't worry about them.

Note it is your case's responsibility to provide a sufficient supply of cool air flowing through your case. Your CPU fan need only toss the CPU's heat into that flow (and note today's Intel and AMD OEM coolers are fully capable of keeping their CPUs adequately cool, even with mild to moderate overclocking).

If your temps are staying above 60°C for extended periods, you need to make sure the case interior is clean of heat trapping dust and your air intake vents are clean and not obstructed. If clean and still too warm, then you need to look at adding another case fan, or replacing existing case fans with fans that move more air. You typically want front to back air flowing through the case so I like at least one large (120mm or larger) fan in front drawing cool air in, and one large fan in back (not counting the PSU fan) exhausting heated air out. Blowhole (top mounted) fans exhausting heated air out can be very effective. I have found side fans can disrupt the desired flow through the case unless they blow into a tube that channels the air directly onto the CPU or GPU. I like double wide graphics cards because they typically exhaust the GPU's heat directly out the back instead of back into the case interior.

Note it is physically impossible to cool an object below the ambient temperature with conventional (heatsink and fan) cooling. So in the screenshot in Post #8 above where we see 10°C (50°F), 6°C (42°F), and 16°C (60°F), those temps are not possible unless the temperature in your room is well below 42°F. The "wind chill effect" only affect living tissue, not hunks of metal.
 

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I can hardly believe your temps... unreal low. what do you have on the cpu, liquid nitrogen?

edit , I think I might have been wrong .just ran the program on mine and my temps are way less than yours ,sorry for the miss info

no ,those are ok temps for you computer
can see all the app that running ,but one could be video card chip. the amd fx one is the motherboard processor

prime95 can over stress the cpu to push up the temps

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nope ,just what ever came with the cpu, but I think it the program ,maybe
 

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  • OS
    win8.1.1 enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Hinze57
    CPU
    AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
    Motherboard
    gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
    Memory
    4gig ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radon hd5000 Series
    Sound Card
    onboard realtek hd
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    128gig ssd Kingston
    80gig WD 10000 rpm spinner
    Case
    micro
    Keyboard
    microsoft curve 200
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless M215
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    high speed 20
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    ie 11
    Antivirus
    windows defender
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