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Identifying partitions on HP Pavilion 15 HDD for SSD image

  1. #51

    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1

    Thanks very much for the suggestions - just mulling this over and very grateful for the advice. I'd probably go for the simplest option or I'll be reaching the limits of my skills. I don't think things are looking too bad - the computer is great, boots quickly, everything running smoothly. I realise I jumped ahead a bit, being a novice with these things, but I can't complain about the results. My data is all on the cloud, also connected to another laptop, so seems quite secure. The Windows 8.1 system is working fine on the SSD. So far as I can see, the worst that can happen is a problem with the System, and I always have the option of re-installing Windows 8.1 as I did before. So data and system are in good shape, and I won't do anything further to risk the latter, particularly.
    Recovery media/partitions seem an extra precaution here -- I'm not too anxious if I can just re-install Windows 8.1 as I did before, and my data is unaffected. But for the sake of thoroughness I'd be happy to keep the HP recovery partition. It sounds like this is useable with some adjustment, although when I tried the HP Recovery Media (which was the official and only HP Recovery USB available to me, as I have shown in earlier messages) I got an error message so that was no good.
    I don't know if the Recovery Partition would also bring up that error message or if I would necessarily need it, as I have the Windows 8.1 re-install option. But to keep it on the HDD and/or to copy it on to a USB is fine - plenty of space on the HDD. The duplicate entry on Disk Management is the only bugbear, but a harmless one it seems. I wonder if there's any significance that one entry is marked NTFS, and the other is not. I guess I could copy the contents of the partition onto E (or onto a USB), delete D, recreate it, then copy the contents back onto it again.
    Anyway, I don't think the machine is any immediate danger and unless I'm missing something its working almost exactly as I'd hoped, but I will choose one of your options no doubt for that last detail of the partition. Thank you both very much for your help and forgive me again for any lack of caution in this process - this will mark the limits of my experimentation!

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  2. #52

    Penn's Forest
    Posts : 216
    Win8.1 Pro | Win10TP Pro - boot to VHD

    You're welcome Damaha ... don't let one misstep bother you too much. As you say, the OS and data are in fine working order and you have the 8.1 install media.

    KYHI gave you a good option list - the best option. imo, is Option 1 - create the Recovery drive and remove the partition (or leave it - only 20+ GB)

    I was searching HP for some information, and saw another person with the identical issue (nah - I know it was you ) An interesting point - I read many reports of HP recovery drives failing to recover he machine to factory settings - just like yours did.. Some folks just closed the tool [X} and that solved the error message!

    If I recall, there was some work you were doing with imaging, prior to that mention, there was nothing about duplicate drive letters, after that mention, there was. Can you shed some light on what you actually did in the first week of Feb (around the 4th).

    Unfortunately I don't recall what imaging / cloning software you were trying to use .. a little help from your side of the monitor might make it easier for members on this side to determine what might have gone wrong. It is on the drive though - the OS on the HDD and the OS on the SSD exhibit the same double D.

    I think you were also playing around with Partition Wizard (I could be wrong - lots of threads). There's no shame in trouble shooting - only data and steps. If you made a mistake that's ok, people make mistakes But .... if you know that you did something that caused the double D or know what you were doing when it first became apparent then you should let members know. I don't judge people for their lack of computer skills - or anything else really. The more members know about the issue, the better.

    So, I was thinking .....

    Launch an elevated Command Prompt and run Check Disk on both partitions, D: | E: , on the HDD
    Run it twice: read only first and then with the fix errors option if needed

    chkdsk d:
    chkdsk e:

    If the double D volume is no longer an issue, you can skip running the fix errors option - won't hurt though.

    chkdsk d: /f
    chkdsk e: /f

    Just don't run the recover bad sectors option - I've seen disks get trashed if there is still an unresolved underlying issue. Chkdsk thinks all sectors are bad a tries to repair them - it' s a mess!

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  3. #53

    Penn's Forest
    Posts : 216
    Win8.1 Pro | Win10TP Pro - boot to VHD

    Quote Originally Posted by KYHI View Post
    This is what happens when you want to keep the factory recovery option - but blast ahead with a clean install and deleting hdd partitions.. And assuming you all the facts and (inventory) needed....
    Yeah the clean install works - but you still have the same problem as in post one, 50 posts later..
    Thanks for posting the option list KYHI. I'm a bit perturbed at the 2nd or 3rd 'assuming' comment though, I can say that I am not. The HP Drive had all of the pieces, you counted 20 some odd files, did the math and you assumed that was all there was. I know HP and I saw the full list on Damaha's post on the HP forum.

    There was ample safety net and you've just proven that again by providing the option list. If you decided not to post that, I would have provided a smaller option list to Damaha. There was nothing catastrophic about removing the previous Windows partition. No data was lost, the HP Recovery part is still there and the drive works fine.

    Yeah, the clean install works great, doesn't it!
    Do you have any suggestion on the double D issue? If you made any, I missed them.
    I don't count days or posts. I count solutions.

    I think you're a fairly intelligent person, but you're a bit weak on people skills. I'm here to help other members solve issues on Windows, not belittle other members.
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  4. #54

    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    the d drive is bootable and has a set ID

    I find it funny that I have been dismissed from this topic several times by you and him - but I keep getting my name pulled into it.. But still any advice I give, gets dismissed..

    So, how can you sovle a problem - if people do not take advise?

    You don't..

    And Honestly - he does not need that recovery partition - as it is useless to him now..
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  5. #55

    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1

    Hey both, not to worry, everything is running smoothly. Thanks Slartybart, I'll give you a run-down of everything I've done on the machine at some point for future reference. Well-spotted, some of this was posted in the HP forum too!, but I have to say the responses on here were by far the most helpful - thanks again.

    I considered using cloning/imaging methods around the time you mentioned, Slartybart, but in the end went with your method: simply inserting the new SSD, removing the HDD, installing Windows 8.1 on the SSD, then re-inserting the HDD, and formatting the main partition, leaving only the Recovery Partition. So in fact the double D recovery partition is exactly the same one on the same HDD that I started out with - as shown in my very first post here. Perhaps some quirk in the drive that was there before I did anything?

    If I seemed to ignore any advice along the way, it was only because I was always going for the simplest options, the methods that I was capable of -- and the results have been great, with no serious worries and plenty of safety nets at this point, so to be honest I have no regrets and am pretty delighted with the 8.1 reinstall recommended by S. Things are looking good. There was some confusion because KYHI recommended creating a Recovery Drive but I knew I couldn't create a new HP recovery drive aside from the one I bought. You're only allowed to create one and can't make another (and the one I purchased apparently didn't work). But what I think I didn't grasp was that I could also use the Windows File History program and choose System Image Recovery? I think you both now recommend that so am working on it.

    "1) Register the recovery image - then create recovery media through control panel - remove partition

    Reagentc /Setosimage /Path d:\preload /Target c:\Windows /Index 1"

    OK, now I get you -- this is using Windows File History to create the System Image Recovery back-up on another Hard Drive, and then use the same tool to create a USB recovery drive. I have now cottoned on that this is different from creating the HP recovery drive. So I am going to do that. But what is that last line in the quote above - is it to be entered as a Command Prompt?

    I post below the chkdsk results from the elevated command prompt - I ran it twice as suggested on D, but was warned off from running the second scan on E as it was in use. Checking Disk Management again afterwards, that double D remains! How about I copy the Recovery files onto a USB or onto E, then delete and recreate D, and put them all back on! This is just being pernickity now, but it's a bit of a mission. I understand that D is bootable, but also perhaps superfluous you say KYHI? - perhaps it's best kept on a USB for sake of tidiness, but perhaps not much in it...
    Close I think to wrapping this up but I'll be sure to give you a list of what I've done at the end for future ref.
    All best meanwhile and much appreciate the time & trouble in responding.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails chkdsk D part one.PNG   chkdsk D part two and E part one.PNG   chkdsk E part three.PNG   chkdsk E part two.PNG  
    Last edited by Damaha; 25 Feb 2015 at 07:29.
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  6. #56

    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    from command prompt(admin)

    type> Reagentc /Setosimage /Path d:\preload /Target c:\Windows /Index 1

    then type> reagentc /info

    post a pic
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  7. #57

    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1

    Ok, following the recommendation of both, attempted option 1 -- but perhaps an issue with the command prompt...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails File History System Image Recovery.PNG   New Recovery USB.PNG   Reagent C.PNG  
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  8. #58

    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    EDIT: I see what you did - you have a space after d:
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  9. #59

    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1

    ok, I fixed that and ran it again...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails latest reagentc.PNG  
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  10. #60

    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10

    Now go to control panel - recovery - create a recovery drive..

    this will create windows recovery media on usb using the factory install images

    Once the process finishes - there will be a check box to remove the recovery partition.. Done..

    Now you can create a "FactoryRecovery" folder on your data drive - and copy all the files on the usb into that folder... For safe keeping..
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