Windows 8 and 8.1 Forums


Identifying partitions on HP Pavilion 15 HDD for SSD image

  1. #21


    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    What are the contents of the HDD recovery partition???
    Are they the same???

    It is an assumption at best, even the instructions dictate create recovery from HDD recovery partition..

    I counted 24 about 300MB swm's = 7200MB / 7GB

    and see a 21.6GB recovery partition

      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  2. #22


    Penn's Forest
    Posts : 216
    Win8.1 Pro | Win10TP Pro - boot to VHD


    Quote Originally Posted by KYHI View Post
    What are the contents of the HDD recovery partition???
    Are they the same???
    It is an assumption at best, even the instructions dictate create recovery from HDD recovery partition..
    I counted 24 about 300MB swm's = 7200MB / 7GB
    and see a 21.6GB recovery partition
    Is this really important?
    The only assumption is that the HP Recovery USB is in fact the HP Recovery USB.

    Damaha has confirmed that a number of times - I missed it, you missed it.

    I have to trust that Damaha actually has the HP Recovery USB that was purchased from HP.

    Regardless of any debate on what the contents are on the USB or on the HDD, the process I outlined protects the original HDD and it can be used to boot the system if that becomes necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by KYHI View Post
    .....
    Although you will still have to HDD if needed later, after setting up the SSD
    My objective is to make this as easy as possible while providing sufficient protection (the HDD is removed and intact).

    I understand your concern KYHI and applaud your attention to detail. I just think that Damaha has an adequate safety net.

    That ends my part of this debate on what HP Recovery options are available. The HDD is intact and can be used at any time to create what Damaha already has on the HP Recovery USB, in the unlikely event that the HP Recovery USB fails.

    Bill
    .
    Last edited by Slartybart; 13 Feb 2015 at 08:57.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  3. #23


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1


    Ok so I installed everything and with the Recovery USB got to this Recovery Manager screen. Chose Minimised Image Recovery and after a few seconds progress get message 'HP Recovery Manager failed. Error code = OxEFFFFF23'. Wonder what you think...
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #24


    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    Go to control panel - recovery - create a recovery drive.. That is your factory recovery image - and it is not the same as what you where provided by HP..

    then do your testing..

    Also with the recovery media, you just created, we can edit one file (due to disk size change) and write the factory image to your smaller SSD

    once you create that media / in the sources folder / will be *resetconfig.xml / you need to open with notepad and edit

    <MinSize>65536</MinSize>


    Hate to say it, but > I already told you..
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  5. #25


    Penn's Forest
    Posts : 216
    Win8.1 Pro | Win10TP Pro - boot to VHD


    Well, you tried the HP minimized way and rather than figure out the why on that, I suggest that you go with what I suggested previously... a clean install

    1) Create install media
    Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 ISO - Download or Create
    2) pull out the existing drive
    3) install the SSD
    4) install Windows 8.1 using media created in step 2

    Let Windows update everything (run WU manually if necessary)

    Install any missing drivers from the HP support page - most will be provided by Windows Update

    Install your favorite programs.

    Purchase a USB enclosure for the HDD and you have a backup plus it's easy to copy your data to the new SSD if you choose.

    Really easy!


    Your machine, your time, your choice.

    edit: I suspect that HP in it's eternal wisdom only supplied the front end and that is looking for the HP Recovery partition (no longer present in the machine since you pulled the drive to install the SSD).

    Bill
    .
    Last edited by Slartybart; 10 Feb 2015 at 20:53.
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  6. #26


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1


    Brilliant, that's excellent advice -- thanks very much. I downloaded the Windows 8.1 ISO onto a USB, used that instead - fresh install, took a while but everything is up and working again and I'm just re-installing drivers and now formatting the old HDD. Everything working just fine -- I wonder why the Recovery Media didn't work, but the result is the same. I may try to get a refund on that USB which I paid for but did little for me. Point taken KYHI -- you did warn me! I will make my own Recovery drive this time as you advised - thanks for flagging that up so wisely. It was a bad moment & lesson learned.

    Microsoft Office came back with no trouble using the product key from a few weeks ago.
    I am just trying to make sure the SSD is working at its best. Have turned of defrag and used Samsung Magician to make some other recommended adjustments. Checked alignment using Disk Part - results below - the fresh install has created new partitions. I know they have to be divisible by four - but into equal numbers? I think I can adjust this if necessary using Partition Wizard.
    The fresh install was nice to see - hopefully the machine is in good nick - with some drivers missing, which I could not make HP website download en masse, but I am hoping to run the machine past the HP Support Assistant instant messaging/remote control facility, which lets them check remotely. I know this is a good moment to lose any unnecessary HP bloatware so will try to be selective about updates.
    The last step is to reconnect the old HDD and connect that to Onedrive, Googledrive and Dropbox so the data all comes back.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Alignment of SSD in HP.PNG  
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  7. #27


    Penn's Forest
    Posts : 216
    Win8.1 Pro | Win10TP Pro - boot to VHD


    Let Windows update your drivers - only go to HP for any MISSING drivers (two on my system are drive guard and cool temps). I decided not to install those.

    Don't worry about the partitions - Windows knows what it needs.

    HP support assistant - bloatware. Windows does a better job and doesn't offer the HP bloat.

    I'm not sure what you mean here: I know they have to be divisible by four - but into equal numbers? Again, it really isn't necessary to concern yourself with the nitty-gritty. Windows creates partitions without you having to think about the 4k boundary. It's really low level stuff. In other words, you don't need PW to adjust anything.

    The diskpart looks good - 111 GB for your C: drive gives you some growing room if you need it to install programs.

    re: HP Recovery...
    HP Recovery Discs or an HP USB Recovery Drive

    Creating Recovery Discs or Saving a Recovery Image to a USB Flash Drive (Windows 7)
    --> This 2nd link pertains to Windows 7, but provides a base understanding of creating HP recovery media - the process does NOT apply to Win8.

    Now that you've replaced the original HDD with an SSD, you no longer have the HP Recovery partition so you would need to create a set (HP Recovery Media Creator). I's possible that the partition will be recognized when you connect the drive to the machine or it might be required that the drive letter is D: - I forget.

    I would contact HP and ask them about the process - I was under the impression that HP supplied you with the full means to run an HP Recovery, not just a front end. You paid for something additional - is that correct? Let me know what you find out, ok - thanks.

    I wouldn't bother - you always have the ability to create the HP media, even if you have to put the HDD back into service as the boot. You have the Win8.1 install media - better in my opinion - no bloat, no additional partition for HP recovery - just Windows!

    Bill
    .
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  8. #28


    Posts : 39
    Windows 8.1


    Great, things are looking good- just put all the cloud data back onto the HDD (Partition E) which is now in a caddy. Disk Management looks like this (below).
    I formatted the HDD using Partition Wizard. I deleted two of the existing partitions, but wasn't able to get delete the 101gb one that is still visible - wasn't allowed by PW it seemed. I formatted all the remaining partitions but left the Recovery Partition on the HD alone. I don't know if its much use now, but thought it cd do no harm as there's plenty of space. It may be redundant now of course.
    There is a duplication in the listing of this Recovery Partition in Disk Management for some reason.
    Everything running ok - may finally transfer the HD into the DVD drive space and put the DVD into a new external case, will see.
    Thanks v much for the advice - will rely on Windows updates not HP you're right. Good to keep it as light as possible.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails new disk management HP.PNG  
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  9. #29


    Penn's Forest
    Posts : 216
    Win8.1 Pro | Win10TP Pro - boot to VHD


    Hmmm, you're a bit hasty on some things. You had a perfect backup on the HDD, but now you don't.

    The double F: drive is the same problem your machine originally had with the double D: drive - it is related to the HP recovery partition.

    Since you're this deep in the swamp.....
    Delete the E: partition - that should 'merge' the unallocated space (1.01 GB) with what is now a 1374.63 GB RAW partition (unformatted)

    Do NOT delete the HP Recovery partition.

    Instead right click F: and change drive letter - remove the drive letter, answer yes to the 'some programs might need ..." prompt

    Post another Disk mgmt. screen.
    then change View -> Top to disks and post a 2nd Disk mgmt. screen

    Slow down or you might make a mistake that will cause you to spend a lot of time recovering.

    Ask first, wait if necessary - don't make things harder for yourself.

    There are some things I'd like you to do, but I'm afraid you might be too excited.

    Bill
    .
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  10. #30


    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    Explore F and look for Install.wim or install.swm(s)

    In order to explore F you may have to show system files and unhide hidden files...

    when you find them let me know..
      My System SpecsSystem Spec

Page 3 of 9 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Identifying partitions on HP Pavilion 15 HDD for SSD image
Related Threads
Hi , I have a laptop with latest Dell wifi drivers and the wifi icon says identifying and under that connected most of the time.I have tried everything flush this ,re-install drivers ,etc. I still get internet 90 % of the time but the identify stays there. I also can get it to recognize my network...
hello, I have offered to try and get windows 8 back on a computer which has a failed hard drive. I have a new hard drive to put in and I have got the win 8.1.iso on a dvd. I think it will want me to put the PID in, which I cannot do. Someone on here pointed me to a little visual basic script...
Help identifying files in C:\ drive? in BSOD Crashes and Debugging
50941 I'm seeing these files in my C:\ drive. Just need some help identifying them, so I can know what to do with them! Much thanks :)
BSOD - need help identifying cause. in BSOD Crashes and Debugging
I'm trying to get the PC stable - currently, I'm using this as a media PC and using some software (DVBLogic) which isn't running properly. I'm trying to do a health check and track down any causes (the DVBLogic service hangs after a resume from standby). There was an error which said memory was...
Solved Hp pavilion dv6t qe 6c00 partitions in Installation & Setup
hello i need someone to help me i have a pavilion dv6t with 3 partitions C: OS, D: Recovery and E: HP tools how should i proceed to install windows 8 with this partitions??? thanks
I have a driver which can be invoked from a thread to monitor the performance of that thread, using AMD hardware performance monitors. The hardware will generate an interrupt from time to time and the ISR can then read some information about what the processor was doing at the time of the...
Hello to all, Have been running W8 and have backed up system images on my 2nd hardrive (D:). I have used Macrium of which I am more familiar and also the OS's Windows 7 File Recovery. Both have instructed me to create boot rescue disks. I am looking at the D: drive and I see the Folder...
Eight Forums Android App Eight Forums IOS App Follow us on Facebook