How to apply an icc profile from one monitor to another

Dick Jagger

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Just got a new monitor and cant seem to get it calibrated to match the original external display that I set up last year. The settings I've adjusted through both monitors (hardware) on screen settings menu are identical, yet the color profiles look a bit off. Under color management, there is an icc profile associated with the original monitor that must have been tweaked by using the windows built in calibration tool. How can I apply that profile to the new monitor.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus N550JV-DB72T
    Graphics Card(s)
    nNidia GeForce750M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    (2) Asus VN247H-P
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
I figured out how to apply the previously created profile to the new monitor (same brand and model) yet they still don't look right!
 

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus N550JV-DB72T
    Graphics Card(s)
    nNidia GeForce750M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    (2) Asus VN247H-P
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
In Control Panel > Colour Management, there's a dropdown menu at the top, which from memory displays Display 1 and Display 2 separately. It may not allow you to add an ICM/ICC profile manually without going to 'Advanced' tab > 'Change System Defaults' first.

I no longer have two monitors, but when I did I think just installing the drivers that came with the monitor put the generic manufactures ICM profiles in there anyway, but it may be worth checking whether it has put them in there for both Display 1 and Display 2. Windows update may even download the drivers automatically now and assign the ICM profile in Colour Management, I'm not sure. The profiles are usually put in C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color.

Not everything in Windows is colour-managed, so you may be able to see if it's a colour profile causing the problem or not by opening an image in a colour-managed application like Windows Photo Viewer for example and moving it between monitors. Then do the same but opening it in a non colour-managed application. If monitor 1 and monitor 2 are different in a non colour-managed application, then it's probably not the profile that's causing it because it's ignored anyway.

Personally, for people who aren't imaging professionals, I would like to see more monitor manufacturers do what Dell do with some of their monitors and factory-calibrate them to sRGB at the factory. It should be standard practice IMO.
 

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  • OS
    Win 8 64-bit
You do not want to use the same ICC profile on a different monitor. Even if it is the same brand & model of monitor & hdtv flatscreen can vary between units.

You need to set an ICC profile for each card & each monitor independently.
 

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thanks. I'm not sure what else to do to get these two monitors to match better.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus N550JV-DB72T
    Graphics Card(s)
    nNidia GeForce750M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    (2) Asus VN247H-P
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
They never will, without using the proper calibration software/tools. Still need mfg & model info for both monitors and video cards.
 

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  • OS
    Linux Mint 17.2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Toshiba Satellite C850D-st3nx1
    CPU
    AMD E1-1200 APU with Radeon (tm) HD Graphics 1.40 GHZ
    Memory
    12GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon™ HD 7310 Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LCD
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    Crucial M500 240GB SSD
    Mouse
    Logitech M525
    Internet Speed
    45/6 - ATT U-Verse
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    None needed. It is Linux.
    Other Info
    Arris NVG589 Gateway; Router - Cisco RV320; Switch - Netgear GS108 8-Port Switch & Trendnet TEG-S50g 5-Port Switch; Access Points - Engenius ECB350, Trendnet TEW-638APB; NAS - Lenovo ix2-4; Printer - Brother HL-2280DW; Air Print Server - Lantronix XPrintServer

    A/V UPS - Tripp-Lite Smart 1500LCD 1500 Va/900 W.
The monitors are Asus VN247H-P, with the exact same settings in the monitors' settings menu and through the windows display color calibration tool. Yet they look quite different. Thanks for any advice. The laptop is the Asus N550JV-DB72T with nNidia GeForce750M.

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  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus N550JV-DB72T
    Graphics Card(s)
    nNidia GeForce750M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    (2) Asus VN247H-P
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
issue could be the connection between the monitors and the laptop ,if you are using 2 different cable types that could cause it ,like one hdmi and one vga or some other connection
 

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    win8.1.1 enterprise
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    PC/Desktop
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    Hinze57
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    AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
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    gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
    Memory
    4gig ddr3
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    Radon hd5000 Series
    Sound Card
    onboard realtek hd
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
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    128gig ssd Kingston
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    micro
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    microsoft curve 200
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    Logitech wireless M215
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    updated enterprise apr 2/14
I would actually expect to see what you are indeed seeing. Two same model monitors bought a year apart may have different LCD Panels. Maybe they are nominally the same model number Panel but the panels are unlikely to be from the same production batch or maybe some manufacturing changes, or variations in the factory calibration/electronics of the Monitor. The same scenario would apply to the backlight LEDs as well.
Each monitor would ideally need an custom ICM profile for itself.
To me looking at those the monitors, the one on the right is at a higher colour temperature than the one on the left.
Therefore, as a first try, would go into the left Monitors Menu and adjust the colour temperature upwards a bit. Always noting the original setting and going 'back to base' when required.
 

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Thanks - I've been messing with the left monitor's custom color temp menu ("user mode") to get it to appear to match (at least to my eyes!) while the right side monitor is left on the pre-set "warm" color profile. Looks more similar now. Brightness, contrast and gamma seem to need similar adjustments though.

The right hand monitor is connected to my laptop via hdmi and hte left is connected by a Mini DisplayPort to HDMI cable, as caperjack suggested may also contribute to the color issue.

Thanks, all.

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 8.1
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Asus N550JV-DB72T
    Graphics Card(s)
    nNidia GeForce750M
    Monitor(s) Displays
    (2) Asus VN247H-P
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
as caperjack suggested may also contribute to the color issue.
maybe ,maybe not ,came to because I usually use a dvi connection to my monitor ,but recently hooked it via vga to a kvm switch and it change things a lot ,
did you try changing the connect around to see if the right screen get the different colors
 

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System One

  • OS
    win8.1.1 enterprise
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Hinze57
    CPU
    AMD FX 6100 6core 3.30gHz
    Motherboard
    gigibyte ga-78lmy-s2p
    Memory
    4gig ddr3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radon hd5000 Series
    Sound Card
    onboard realtek hd
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" viewsonic/ 22"Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    128gig ssd Kingston
    80gig WD 10000 rpm spinner
    Case
    micro
    Keyboard
    microsoft curve 200
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless M215
    Internet Speed
    high speed 20
    Browser
    ie 11
    Antivirus
    windows defender
    Other Info
    updated enterprise apr 2/14
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