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Finding the right Drivers for my Computer

  1. #11


    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    In addition to that, drivers themselves are not to be confused with complete package that they come in together with their controls and control panels. If you look in device manager for a driver for particular part, in it's Driver tab you can see real version of that driver which doesn't have to correspond to version number in downloaded driver. There are times when driver itself, ie. it's version does not change at all but it's controls do or some feature for setting the device change only. Some driver files you download do not contain anything new (drivers wise) for your particular piece of HW but only add drivers for a newer version of it. If that's the case, there's no point in updating drivers as they stay same for that (older) HW. Manufacturers make packages like that to save on their distribution and there's no guarantee you'll get newest ones. It could be seen in .INF files in the package.
    A good example are the Realtek audio drivers(which get new filters from time to time): my desktop is hooked up with my HDTV thru HDMI instead of the analog jack, so the Realtek control panel doesn't even show up like it does on my laptop. So in my case updating such is a total waste of time and bandwidth being they'll never be used. HID drivers for keyboard and mouse, monitor, disk drivers haven't changed since 2006. Drivers should not be confused with firmware like in the case of Hdds and SSDs. The driver is the "translator" that tells the OS kernel and software how to communicate with the hardware, firmware is software to control a device. In general a driver is a kernel module that talks to hardware; firmware is software that runs on the hardware that talks to the driver. So a driver that's over 10 years old does not mean it's outdated. It also depends how these so called "Driver Updater Utillities" find their drivers: by date or by version number. By date is usually where a site puts the driver in it's catalogue, a version number can be a generic driver tuned a bit for a specific PC; like a LENOVO H530 and a LENOVO H530s.
    Yes, thanks to P&P (Plug and Play), in the beginning we used to call it Plug and Pray as it was not as reliable as today.

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  2. #12


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    On my desktop PC the only thing that doesn't work is my onboard VIA sound. It's not detected at all, not even as unknown hardware so Windows doesn't look for a driver for it. As far as its concerned, its not there. On my laptop the its just the touchpad gestures that don't work. It's a special utility for that. You can point and click you just can't two finger scroll etc.

    On laptops one thing you can run into with stock windows drivers is reduced functionality. You may have sound but your keyboard sound up down function keys don't work. Or your WIFI's Airplane Mode on off doesn't work. You won't know until you try to use them. Also laptop manufacturers often customize the driver for their hardware. Switchable graphics for example. If its say Intel and NVidia, getting the driver from the laptop manufacturer is probably a better idea than installing two separate drivers. One from Intel and one from NVidia. I'm lucky on that one, my laptops switchable graphics are AMD/AMD. I can skip ASUS and go right to AMD for the latest driver.

    I must say though, that Windows has come a long way as far as stock drivers go. It's nice when you do a clean install and your WIFI works right away. And you cordless keyboard and mouse work.
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  3. #13



    Trying to Sith things out
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 2,290
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit


    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    On my desktop PC the only thing that doesn't work is my onboard VIA sound. It's not detected at all, not even as unknown hardware so Windows doesn't look for a driver for it. As far as its concerned, its not there. On my laptop the its just the touchpad gestures that don't work. It's a special utility for that. You can point and click you just can't two finger scroll etc.

    On laptops one thing you can run into with stock windows drivers is reduced functionality. You may have sound but your keyboard sound up down function keys don't work. Or your WIFI's Airplane Mode on off doesn't work. You won't know until you try to use them. Also laptop manufacturers often customize the driver for their hardware. Switchable graphics for example. If its say Intel and NVidia, getting the driver from the laptop manufacturer is probably a better idea than installing two separate drivers. One from Intel and one from NVidia. I'm lucky on that one, my laptops switchable graphics are AMD/AMD. I can skip ASUS and go right to AMD for the latest driver.

    I must say though, that Windows has come a long way as far as stock drivers go. It's nice when you do a clean install and your WIFI works right away. And you cordless keyboard and mouse work.

    I know what you mean. For example my asus x54c needs ATKHOTKEY package for the FN and media keys to work. when I boot into ubuntu, I have to use the UI for Audacious or KODI(XBMC).
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