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Windows 8.1 Recovery Flash Drive Issues

  1. #11


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    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 8 RP x64


    I don't think a new drive is possible. I'll just get a bigger SD card. Thanks for your help!

    Shawn

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  2. #12


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Yeah, it could be flash memory soldered right to the motherboard. Or a pc card plugged into a mini PCIe slot. Just watch for a Christmas sale on Micro SD cards. Or what ever type of card it takes.
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  3. #13


    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    Your Welcome..

    and your right - only option is a bigger card.. well different tablet is an option too..
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  4. #14


    Posts : 5
    Win 8.1

    I figured out INSTALL.WIM in a hidden partition


    just as the preceding discussion had it. However, I had found I cannot reset my TW700 to its factory specs. When I got through one or the other pathway to resetting, I get a nondescript error message saying reset was not done and nothing was changed.
    Spent 90 minutes in a conline chat session with MicroCenter tech support & at the end was told I would have to return the TW700 to the store to fix whatever problem prevents me from resetting the machine.
    The hidden partition does have a recovery directory, but it's empty:

    Volume in drive D isImages
    Volume Serial Number is 4E91-9FEA

    Directory of D:\Images

    11/18/2014 10:39 PM <DIR> .
    11/18/2014 10:39 PM <DIR> ..
    11/01/2014 02:09 AM 5,646,302,722 Install.wim
    1 File(s) 5,646,302,722 bytes
    2 Dir(s) 105,361,408 bytes free

    Volume in drive D is Images
    Volume Serial Number is 4E91-9FEA

    Directory of D:\Recovery

    12/10/2014 05:29 PM <DIR> .
    12/10/2014 05:29 PM <DIR> ..
    0 File(s) 0 bytes
    2 Dir(s) 105,361,408 bytes free
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  5. #15


    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    attrib -s -r -h d:\recovery\windowsre\winre.wim

    that command will unhide the system files


    When I got through one or the other pathway to resetting, I get a nondescript error message saying reset was not done and nothing was changed.
    Nor would I really expect it to change, unless you reset the windows partition, based on the way wimboot works, if you get a virus on your C drive and it becomes infected, the windows image is not effected but rather the pointer files to it..

    I have not tested this, but it is my understanding that recovery would need to format C and then reappy the windows image pointers to C, when doing a reset.. And when doing a refresh it would just reapply the pointer files.
    That is how it is done via a technician, not sure how it is done using the inside OS recovery options,

    control panel, recovery, create a recovery drive - creates a Bare Metal Reset Recovery Option..

    And that would allow a you to write to an empty drive or over write an existing one

    This is one of the things I will be testing as soon as I get my stylus pen.. As my fingers are just to big for my windows tablet screen
    Last edited by KYHI; 11 Dec 2014 at 09:28.
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  6. #16


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    Posts : 6
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Windows 8 RP x64


    This is the second TW700 I've gotten from MicroCenter. The first one I had to return because it had no recovery partition. Anytime I tried resetting, or even just refreshing, it would tell me no and that nothing was changed. I took it in and talked the techs and the tech said the recovery image was gone. I'm still not sure if he knew that right away cause he looked stumped until I said something about the recovery image used for refreshes, then it seemed to click for him.
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  7. #17


    Posts : 5
    Win 8.1


    "Anytime I tried resetting, or even just refreshing, it would tell me no and that nothing was changed. " That's the same thing that happened to me, over & over.
    Other readings indicate there are pointers on the Win 8.1 C: partition to hidden /Images/install.wim that indicate where the system is to go to re-set itself. If the pointers go bad, no resetting is possible. I'm not sure there was EVER anything in the hidden Recovery/ folder. Be nice if a new buyer of a TW700 would check this out right after starting the machine up.
    "the tech said the recovery image was gone "
    As I mentioned early, there was NOTHING in my hidden Recovery/ folder, although it suspiciously carried the date that I tried to do my 1st re-set, whereas the Images/ folder was the original date on the machine. Was there anything in Recovery/ in the first place? Had I known then what I know now, I would have checked out the hidden partitions and the re-set process FIRST before I did anything else.
    But I did this instead: Activated the built-in Office 365. There were no options to install a part of the Office package, it's all or nothing. The only part I really wanted was OneNote, the rest I can do without.
    I can't imagine anyone writing a novel using Word or building up a 255 line 30 column Excel spreadsheet on this tablet. Even if it were possible, it would be very, very tedious using the on-screen keyboard.
    I deleted the MicroCenter-supplied antivirus & used AVG instead.
    At this point I had 255 MB of storage left on C: I installed TeamViewer 9, about 39 MB, and so had even less. I was not able to run Windows Update past the first package downloaded & installed , got the error message, not enough room for Windows Update to run.
    Then AVG gave me an error message, not enough room to download & install its own updates.
    So I deleted Office 365, and recovered memory to the extent of 1.5 GB free on C:
    I let the machine stay on all night & the next morning it was somehow back to about 200 MB free, with error messages again from AVG that it couldn't update itself. A lot must have downloaded during the night, but I had lost patience with this machine. I didn't investigate what had consumed all that storage capacity.
    I returned my TW700 to MicroCenter last Saturday, 12 days after I bought it for a full credit to my charge card. IIRC MicroCenter allows 15 days return for tablets.
    It was fun while it lasted, but I won't own a Windows machine I cannot restore to its original configuration, and I didn't care to wait on a technician to go around the same track I had just been on. I got the impression the techs aren't fully up-to-date on the idiosyncracies of the TW700.
    I will follow this story to satisfy my curiosity about what went wrong.
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  8. #18


    Posts : 2,690
    Windows 3.1 > Windows 10


    type this command into a command prompt(admin) and post an image

    type> reagentc /info

    and post a picture of disk management



    and you may have to unhide the folders as well

    attrib -s -r -h d:\recovery

    attrib -s -r -h d:\recovery\windowsre

    attrib -s -r -h d:\recovery\windowsre\winre.wim

    you should find winre.win in that recovery folder, but you may have to unhide the folders one at a time
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  9. #19


    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 6,490
    Windows 10 Education 64 Bit


    Docked and connected to a large screen and full sized keyboard, excel and word are as usable as they are on any other PC.

    Some OEM's may use a proprietary format for the recovery partition that won't show up in disk management or explorer. The partition looks empty but it really isn't. I'm not saying this is the case here but it's just something to keep in mind. Things aren't always as they appear.
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  10. #20


    Posts : 5
    Win 8.1

    MicroCenter Tech support has issued a new utility


    It frees up space on the C: drive, various reports indicate 1.6 GB or more is so gained.
    Go here: Winbook Support
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