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Cloned my old HDD to a new SSHD but it will not boot.

  1. #31


    Ok, can i use Macrium to move my user data or would i have to do that manually (moving out folders that have data)?

    Honestly most of the stuff on C is probably games, some documents, music etc.

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  2. #32


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    Games will have to be reinstalled. During the installation you have to direct them to the 4TB disk. Documents and music you can just copy paste to the 4TB.

    Here is what I suggest:

    1. om the 4TB - define 2 partitions. One for data and the other for the games. For starters I would go 50/50. Then move your user files to the data partition. Delete the games on the current C partition and reinstall to the games partition.

    2. The SSD - define a 350MB aligned and active partition for the system partition. In the rest of the space define a partition for C. This is important and has to be done prior to restoring the images.

    3. Hopefully moving the data and games out of C allows you to shrink the C partition to less than appr. 200GB. For that you need the bootable CD of partition wizard.

    4. Make a Macrium image of the 350MB partition and the shrunken C partition. Then restore these 2 partitions to the SSD.

    For the rest the usual.
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    2. The SSD - define a 350MB aligned and active partition for the system partition. In the rest of the space define a partition for C. This is important and has to be done prior to restoring the images.
    Not to offend you but this is incorrect. As long as OP can shrink C drive + 350 MB Recovery partition from the 1TB HD to less than the capacity of the SSD then all he needs to do is to make a back up image as shown in post #17 and restore to the SSD. Macrium will restore the 350MB Rcovery partition and also will adjust to fit drive C: into the SSD and marks it Active automatically. I know this for fact because I have done it many times before.

    @OP,
    After the image is created, connect the SSD and restore the image to it. No need to boot from the USB, shutdown your PC, temporarily disconnect the 1TB HD, set the BIOS to first boot priority for the SSD then boot up.
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  4. #34


    Great, As you sugested, I defined 2 partitions on the 4TB SSHD. I Defined 2 partitions on the SSD with one being a 350 MB one. I cleaned up my 2TB C: drive and backed it up onto the 4TB SSHD just as a precautionary.

    But C: is still 800 GB, what folders are necessary to keep in C: Drive in order to boot windows? (Windows , Program files x86, etc...) Since i have a clone on the 4TB SSHD i can go ahead and delete the unecessary stuff from C: so it can be small enough to clone to my SSD. On the link i have added a picture of my C: drive.

    HDD to SSHD Problerm - Imgur
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    Not to offend you but this is incorrect. As long as OP can shrink C drive + 350 MB Recovery partition from the 1TB HD to less than the capacity of the SSD then all he needs to do is to make a back up image as shown in post #17 and restore to the SSD. Macrium will restore the 350MB Rcovery partition and also will adjust to fit drive C: into the SSD and marks it Active automatically. I know this for fact because I have done it many times before.
    If the image is coming from a HDD, Macrium will not align it. It will maintain the HDD alignment which is no good. And I always activate the system partition just to be sure that the MBR points to it. Never checked whether Macrium would do that for me.


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  6. #36


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    Quote Originally Posted by WaffleParties View Post
    Great, As you sugested, I defined 2 partitions on the 4TB SSHD. I Defined 2 partitions on the SSD with one being a 350 MB one. I cleaned up my 2TB C: drive and backed it up onto the 4TB SSHD just as a precautionary.

    But C: is still 800 GB, what folders are necessary to keep in C: Drive in order to boot windows? (Windows , Program files x86, etc...) Since i have a clone on the 4TB SSHD i can go ahead and delete the unecessary stuff from C: so it can be small enough to clone to my SSD. On the link i have added a picture of my C: drive.

    HDD to SSHD Problerm - Imgur
    A normal C partition is appr. 30GB. You must get rid of all the stuff beyond 200GB - at least. Run WinDirStat. That will show you where the big chunks are.

    https://windirstat.info/
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  7. #37


    Great, That helped, i was able to do everything you guys sugested and i was able to boot off my SSD, Thanks a lot for the help.

    My final question. If i wanted to boot certain games from my SSD to boot faster i would just have to move them to C: (SSD) drive instead of D: (HDD Storage) Drive?

    Thanks again.
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  8. #38


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    The games you would have to reinstall to the SSD - not move. Moving the program files will not work because the registry would be out of wack.

    Glad to see you running off the SSD - isn't that fun.
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  9. #39


    Yes, the boot time is so much quicker. Again thanks for the help guys. However when i boot my system i always get the windows boot manager asking me to choose a OS, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1, how can i make it so it only starts up windows 8.1.

    I went into the system settings/advanced and chose 8.1 as my default but it still happens on boot.

    Thanks.
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  10. #40


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    You have to get Windows 8 out of the bootmgr. Best with EasyBCD. There are some instruction starting with Step 3 in this tutorial I made a while ago.

    Dual Boot - Delete a OS - Windows 7 Help Forums

    Get the free version of EasyBCD - e.g. from here:

    Download EasyBCD - MajorGeeks
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