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I am an SSD Convert -- How can you manage WITHOUT one !!!

  1. #31


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    Vince, If I was you when you will have Windows 8 install on your SSD, I will convert the Windows 7 and XP in VM and I will use them with Hyper-V ( include with Windows 8 ) , so instead of boot only 1 OS at the time, you can run the 3 of them at same time.

    See how many I run at same time ( of course they run on a dedicated Hyper-V server )


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  2. #32


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    That is neat. But I would think that you need at least 6GB of RAM to run those 3 systems concurrently. And how does this work with the diskspace you have to allocate to each system. May be tight on a small SSD.

    I have never tried Hyper-V but know the situation from Virtual Box where I run Win8 and Ubuntu as guests on Win7.
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  3. #33


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    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    WHS, you install only Windows 8 on the SSD, you store the VM on a mechanical drive. I will say it's better to have 8 GB of ram. Ram are so cheap this day. My VM server are in the shop in another building connected with a 1gb lan, and it's pretty dam responsive, I means the mouse. Remote Desktop Connection is very good. ( compare to Vsphere and EXSi ) , If the VM is host on the same PC, it will be even faster.
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  4. #34


    Germany/Florida
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    Vista and Win7


    Interesting. I have to try that one day. I happen to have 8GB of RAM and an SSD plus a spinner and also an eSata attached disk. I would put everything on the same system since I have no server.
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  5. #35


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    Windows 7 64bit SP1


    Another happy SSD user here!
    Main desktop has a Crucial M4 128GB in it plus a 500GB WD Blue spinner for storage , really does speed things up considerably! I don't care about boot times (an irrelevance anyway I think ... ) since the machine is on 24/7 anyway!
    I've also got an Acer Iconia Tab with a Sandisk P4 32GB in it , don't know much about this drive to be honest , It seems to work well enough though!
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  6. #36


    Posts : 1,308
    Windows 8 enterprise x64


    It's when you try a non SSD PC that you really see the difference
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  7. #37


    Hafnarfjörður IS
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    Linux Centos 7, W8.1, W7, W2K3 Server W10


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    Vince, If I was you when you will have Windows 8 install on your SSD, I will convert the Windows 7 and XP in VM and I will use them with Hyper-V ( include with Windows 8 ) , so instead of boot only 1 OS at the time, you can run the 3 of them at same time.

    See how many I run at same time ( of course they run on a dedicated Hyper-V server )

    Hi there
    remember also to set the rdp options to LAN (highest speed) plus transfer sound and use storage (if you want to have access to your local storage drives in your rdp sessions. By using the highest speed RDP has improved considerably -- desktop backgrounds and aero will also then work

    To get access to the PROPER RDP (not the hobbled Metro version) use the command MTSC.EXE from the command prompt -- the popup with all the options will become available.

    With VM's --fine running them from the spinner - but do get 6 - 8 GB RAM.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  8. #38


    Perth West Australia
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    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM


    I'm also a dedicated SSD fan. I first used a 124GB Corsair Performance3 SATA3 SSD when I built a new rig a year ago. Recently upgraded back up machine to a 120GB Corsair Performance SATA3 SSD. The only thing I regret is paying $395 a year ago, while the recent acquisition only cost $165. But then, that's how it goes in PC land.

    I use part of it for a storage partition and can copy 3.07GB of music from the storage partition to the active partition in 27 seconds. Copying the same music folder from an external USB3 West Digital Elements hard drive to the active partiton takes 51 seconds.

    Once you've used it you'll never go back.
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  9. #39


    Perth West Australia
    Posts : 128
    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by whs View Post
    Vince, you can do that. Just disconnect the other drive whilst you install Win8 on the SSD. Then change the bootsequence with the BIOS. That is the preferred method. Double booting win7 and Win8 is a dog because of the incompatibility of the Win8 EFI BCD and the Win7 NTFS BCD. I had tried that first but scrapped it.
    I got a bit carried away in commenting on some of your posts in one of the other threads, for which I apologize.

    That's exactly the same experience I had. I first installed Win8 on a 2nd standard 1TB SATA West Digital with my SSD still connected with Win7 on it. It created a dual boot, but stored the boot data in the SDD HD. Win8 honked up my whole system with BSODs, so unconditionally formatted the WD HD and unplugged it. Restored Win7 from an Acronis image, but the boot menu options still came up on boot up. I used EasyBCD to remove the Win8 option, but it still came up even though it went nowhere.

    Had to format the SSD to get rid of it, as I only know limited commands in BCD, which was no real drama, as the Acronis image which contained Win7 fully loaded was back up and running within 7 minutes. Next time round I unplugged the SSD before loading Win8, (a later version ... the original came in developer version from a DVD in a PC magazine), and this created unrelated boot menus, which, as you say are controlled via BIOS.
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  10. #40


    Perth West Australia
    Posts : 128
    1st PC: Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail. 2nd PC: Vista Ulimtate 32bit OEM


    Quote Originally Posted by area 66 View Post
    It's when you try a non SSD PC that you really see the difference
    Off topic: I got a bit heated in the exchanges we had in the thread "Does anybody like Win8" and made personal remarks for which I apologize.

    I don't want to resurrect the CPU discussion in a thread, but have left you a visitor message if you would like to view my last research on the matter.

    Regards PB
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