Solved Need Screen to Turn Off after certain delay BUT NOT SLEEP!

berardi1111

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I am using a Surface Pro 3 running Windows 8.1 Pro

I have already turned off Connected Standby. I KNOW there has to be a way to get back the ability to make separate settings for sleeping / turning off the display. Will someone please help? this is driving me insane
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To be clear, I want to have the display ONLY turn off after 3 minutes, but NEVER sleep my device.

Thank you!
 

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Hi berardi1111 and welcome to the forum! Wouldn't it be the same as on a desktop or laptop? Don't set it to sleep but choose blank screensaver and set to 3 minutes. Unless different on Surface.
 

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Thanks all! I appreciate all the replies.

But for some reason I don't have this option in my power options screen. I read that you must turn off Connected Standby / Instantgo for it to work but I have done so and still do not see option to turn off screen / sleep computer separately. If I set the "Turn Off Display" to 3 minutes for example, it actually sleeps the entire Machine rather than just the screen. Any ideas? I would even go for a Regedit to make the change.

Thanks in advance!

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Berardi,

What do you have all of your "Sleep" power options like below set to?

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    ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula Z390
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    64 GB (4x16GB) G.SKILL TridentZ RGB DDR4 3600 MHz (F4-3600C18D-32GTZR)
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    ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated Digital Audio (S/PDIF)
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    2 x Samsung Odyssey G7 27"
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    2560x1440
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    1TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2,
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    8TB WD MyCloudEX2Ultra NAS
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    OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W
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Berardi1111, did you ever solve this? For the forum pro users, administrators, and MS MVPs that tried to help ... well, your answers weren't helpful. The Surface Pro 3 (and most other new tablet convertibles) have InstantGo (AKA Connected Standby). An InstantGo enabled PC doesn't have the usual power options. While InstantGo is a great idea when you are using the SP3 as a tablet and not connected to AC power, when InstantGo blanks the screen, it prevents normal background activities as might be expected when connected to AC for desktop-like usage.

Basically, MS has disabled the ability to have a true screen-off screen saver and still have the machine do useful work while on AC power. This is just dumb. I have yet to find any way around this.
 

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We're having he same issue with a new Win 8.1/bing tablet. When going into the deeper power settings, we can find the Turn Monitor Off as a separate option, however, it still treats that the same as the Sleep option.

Apparently, if you're running a Windows Store App, the sleep mode will not shut down those processes, so you could continue to play audio with the screen off for instance, which is exactly what we need to do. However, our application isn't a Windows Store App so the sleep mode shuts down all audio output.

If anyone has any idea of some registry edits in order to shut down the screen and keep the system running, that would be highly appreciated. The Sleep\Wake button, would then need to know to turn the screen back on as well. That, or touching the screen itself to bring it back up.

Another option we're looking at is to create a black screen saver, but we're not sure as to if that will prolong the screen over keeping it on the standard desktop all the time, as the screen is technically still on and drawing black.

Cheers,
 

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OK so the best solution I have found is:
1. Disable connected standby via regedit
2. Set the computer to never sleep in each of your power settings schemes via the Windows Modern settings
3. Under advanced power options set the screen to turn off after the desired amount of time for each of your power schemes.


I think the important part is to FIRST set the never sleep inside the Windows Modern settings. THEN change the advanced power options screen turn off time.


This is really backwards and MS really needs to fix this but for now my Surface Pro 3 is behaving as I would like it to.
 

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I have an application I downloaded and have on my Asus Win 8.1 tablet.

TurnOffLCD

Turn off your notebook LCD with one-click | Redmond Pie

It works fine on my tablet and it justs turns off the LCD while keeping everything else running.

Of course, the tablet can still go to sleep based on the sleep settings and such.
 

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Dear beradi1111

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Thanks so much Berardi, This did the trick on our Windows 8.1\Bing tablet!

Best,
DAoasis


OK so the best solution I have found is:
1. Disable connected standby via regedit
2. Set the computer to never sleep in each of your power settings schemes via the Windows Modern settings
3. Under advanced power options set the screen to turn off after the desired amount of time for each of your power schemes.


I think the important part is to FIRST set the never sleep inside the Windows Modern settings. THEN change the advanced power options screen turn off time.


This is really backwards and MS really needs to fix this but for now my Surface Pro 3 is behaving as I would like it to.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 8.1\Bing
    Computer type
    Tablet
    System Manufacturer/Model
    Z3535
    CPU
    Baytrail Z3535G
    Memory
    1GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel On Board
    Browser
    IE
    Antivirus
    NA
Is there a difference in terms of power consumption between blank screen saver, the "turn lcd off" tool, and native "display off" after instant-on has been disabled? Obviously, blank screen saver seems the safest and easiest...
 

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    Tablet
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    Surface Pro 3
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    intel i5
That was our first thought, however, a blank screen saver still powers the back light of the LCD and will reduce the lifespan of the screen as well as still consume energy. We need the screens to last for years and the tablet will be on all the time, so turning the screen off for us was the best solution.
 

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    Baytrail Z3535G
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    1GB
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    Intel On Board
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    IE
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Same problem here with wanting to leave a tablet doing useful stuff with no real need for the display to be on and this new win8 power management malarky has been driving me absolutely nuts !

Whilst the whole standby(connected) and what amounts to a hibernate rather than shutdown scheme seems like a good thing in principle, it most certainly doesn't totally remove the need for the good old fashioned method of power management IMHO. It seems quite crazy that MS have decreed that you can't simply select the 'new' or 'old' method as required. If I just wanted my tablet to look/behave like a smartphone then I'd probably have bought a poxy smartphone rather than a tablet !

I currently have a shiny new tablet sat next to me running for hours at a time ... and all that I really want to do is dim or blank the screen when there's been no recent user activity and then shutdown after a very much longer period of no user activity. Dead easy in the past but no longer possible now so the screen has to remain fully active even when it's obviously not being used. This simply has to consume vast amounts of battery capacity in addition to stressing components unnecessarily.

I sort of understand previous posts (and other similar threads on here and elsewhere) but the only suggestions are more than a bit of a bodge really aren't they ? and no doubt something that's easily screwed up by a future Win Update into the bargain. Unless I'm totally missing the bleedin' obvious here, all that's really needed is a screensaver that actually does exactly what it says on the label. Something that kicks in after a configured period of user inactivity which saves the screen (plus backlight and battery !) by effectively turning the screen off. Windows power management can then deal with the sleep/shutdown aspect in the usual way if/when subsequently needed.

The standard 'blank' screensaver looks promising but of course it doesn't help at all in reality. Effectively all it does is hide the screen behind a black image so it has no significant effect on power consumption or component life whatsoever because the backlight is still on at the 'normal' level. Surely it's not beyond the limits of man to dim/blank the screen by actually reducing the brightness rather than simply covering it up to achieve a vaguely similar result ?

I've no doubt that the equally new 'auto brightness' option could potentially screw things up but that option can be easily disabled if needs be. The fact that Windows now appears to place a solid colour image behind any 3rd party screensaver probably also makes dimming of the actual screen contents virtually impossible. However, the only important requirement here is to reduce the backlight to zero(ish) and display a static image in order to conserve power and extend component life. What the screen visually looks like is somewhat irrelevant really. Something essentially as simple as the current 'blank' screensaver but with much reduced display brightness forced when it's active as well would be fine.

So ... is there anyone clever enough to produce a noddy screensaver that reduces the display brightness to zero(ish) after a period of no user activity but will immediately restore it back to the previous brightness level setting if there's any user activity before the normal sleep/shutdown kicks in ? There's a virtual crate of beer sat here waiting for someone who can implement what seems to me to be the ideal solution to the problem MS have created by their 'improvements' to power management ! It all sounds simple enough to me in principle (although I don't have a clue about how to actually implement it) but is there any reason why it can't actually be achieved in practice ?
 

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Lenovo laptops have their turn off backlight feature to toggle it on or off, but I just use connected standby on my tablet when I want the screen off for a moment.
 

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