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SSD Drive dependability

  1. #21


    India
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    Brands like HP, Dell, Acer need to popularise laptops with SSDs & hybrid drives amongst the wide consumer market replacing the old spinning platters. For that the $/Gigs has to really come down I suppose. Its very difficult to see any branded laptops with SSD or hybrids being sold here in India.
    If SSDs starts to gain attention, they can really reduce the failure/return rates, cut-down on build time, increase battery life, improve the overall experience of a laptop & of course consumers start talking about how fast their Brand new laptop is - actually these factors increase their sales, Isn't it?
    Of course, there comes a question - why selling like that if you can upgrade to SSD after purchase!?

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  2. #22


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    Laptops typically come with large capacity drives, 500 GB ~ 750 GB. Putting an SSD of the same size in will bump the cost up to where people would more than likely buy one with a regular drive in it to save money. Especially if its a bigger drive, more storage. It will happen eventually when prices drop more, then the increased speed and longer battery life will be the selling point.
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  3. #23


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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    Laptops typically come with large capacity drives, 500 GB ~ 750 GB. Putting an SSD of the same size in will bump the cost up to where people would more than likely buy one with a regular drive in it to save money. Especially if its a bigger drive, more storage. It will happen eventually when prices drop more, then the increased speed and longer battery life will be the selling point.
    Exactly, that's what I'm trying to convey. SSDs really has to get huge advancement in their technology with regard to cost & reliable performance. These people would start to realize its potential if there occurs a dip in their prices for good.
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  4. #24


    Hybrid drives are also "spinners" just with a small SSD attached as a cache to speed up operation so they can't have same speeds as proper SSDs.
    I have a feeling that prices for SSDs are kept intentionally high until research for them pays off. Just like it was happening with "plasma" TVs and monitors (price fixing during that time didn't help either), once they passed by that, new monitors took off like crazy and killed production of CRTs in no time. Time is coming for SSDs too, just have to jump that barrier of overproduction of HDDs. Than we'll see another boom. Just one problem, people are working on new type of magnetic memory that promises much higher speed and even lower power consumption and if that gets going before SSDs are left as only or main storage devices, again we will see higher prices of new devices without large drop of prices for devices that preceded it.
    Right now, we are seeing relatively high prices of SSDs without corresponding price drop for HDDs.
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  5. #25


    India
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    Gradual transformation from hybrid to SSD could occur. I could see hybrid drives here in India only for premium laptops with comparatively higher price.
    If its the Plasma tv revolution that's going to happen, then we'll give it a very warm welcome - really need all the major brands to popularise SSDs in their products, waiting for that event to occur , hope it would come soon
    Last edited by visruth; 29 Jul 2014 at 07:37.
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  6. #26


    Hafnarfjörđur IS
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    Hi there.
    I suppose Price is only relative to where you are in the world - but I've seen a large drop in the price of SSD's and conventional HDD's too. I can pay less now for a 256GB SSD than I did for a 120 GB one I did a while ago. Laptop HDD's also are very cheap now - even for a 1TB model -- although why you would need a 1TB model on a laptop is a moot point.

    Performance is so much better with an SSD even with a cheap older laptop - or even one of those really old netbooks (does anybody still use those any more) that it becomes a real pain to use a computer with a standard HDD - even a more powerful computer.

    SSD's consuime less power, and put out less heat too -- and are perfectly reliable too --although as always with computers take decent backups from time to time.

    SSD's --win win in every way.

    If you really need a lot of storage with a laptop simply use one of those external self powered passport type 2TB USB3 (compatible with USB2 as well) HDD's. 2TB should keep most people quiet enough for a while.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7. #27


    India
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there.
    I suppose Price is only relative to where you are in the world - but I've seen a large drop in the price of SSD's and conventional HDD's too. I can pay less now for a 256GB SSD than I did for a 120 GB one I did a while ago. Laptop HDD's also are very cheap now - even for a 1TB model -- although why you would need a 1TB model on a laptop is a moot point.

    Performance is so much better with an SSD even with a cheap older laptop - or even one of those really old netbooks (does anybody still use those any more) that it becomes a real pain to use a computer with a standard HDD - even a more powerful computer.

    SSD's consuime less power, and put out less heat too -- and are perfectly reliable too --although as always with computers take decent backups from time to time.

    SSD's --win win in every way.

    If you really need a lot of storage with a laptop simply use one of those external self powered passport type 2TB USB3 (compatible with USB2 as well) HDD's. 2TB should keep most people quiet enough for a while.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I can only say whats happening here in India, its really poor performance in case of speed - and I see the only bottleneck for that being spinning HDD as Mike referred to.
    Really need an SSD - upgrading after buying a decent laptop, paying extra price for it is very sad
    Last edited by visruth; 29 Jul 2014 at 11:43.
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  8. #28


    At the present time SSDs are superior to conventional drives in every way, except cost. An SSD with the capacity that most people would consider adequate is still to expensive to include in a computer that will sell on the mass market. There can be little doubt that SSDs will eventually replace conventional drives. Increased market share and improved manufacturing techniques will bring down price and increase performance, storage space, and reliability. As happened with conventional drives. But it will take time, and nobody knows how long it will be.
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  9. #29


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    As i saw, most of better laptops, that costs 1500+ $, comes with ssd, and best laptops comes with two ssds. That is understandable, as most people doesnt know anything about technologies, so puting a simple cheap hdd with bigger capacity numbers will looks better for simple people, also simple people just wants laptop to run a web browser, they dont care about speed or anything else, so there is no need for puting ssd into cheap laptops.
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  10. #30


    India
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    If the major brands really need to keep going ahead in the race to ultimate performance , they have to atleast try implementing the SSDs with reduced price in laptops <$1000 gradually, & if that shows some improvement in the market behavior, they could really go for it and that would boost everything with it...
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