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My first days with a Windows 8 phone

  1. #171


    Thanks again, Tepid. That does explain everything. Hopefully I'll be performing this later on today.

    LOL on this pic!

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  2. #172


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Thanks Tepid for all the good information. It was interesting to see that you had to actually buy Office. My $69 Lumia 521 came with Office included. In light of that, the $69 is a good deal - I think. And it is contract free.
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  3. #173


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    No no, I did not have to buy office, but I wanted Office on all of my PC's
    I still had Word, Excel and Power Point and Email on my phone,,, sorry for the confusion.
    Those come on every WP, regardless of model. It's part of the OS.

    Office 365 is a great offer, I read somewhere that someone said it wasn't,, but it is.
    It pays for itself in the long run.

    99$ a year and install Full Office Suite on 5 PC's/Laptop/Tablets is a very good offer on it's own.
    I don't use skype, but it comes with 60min talk time per month. and you can buy more if needed.

    at $400 per system for retail, that is a lot of money to spend every couple of years
    And you can share the installs with anyone you want, and remove them at any time.
    So technically, if you had friends who also wanted one or 2 installs, you could sell them that share and
    break that down however you like. Makes it even cheaper.

    And I think that includes who you might share the account with for Skype as well,, meaning they get 60min as well
    and each get 20G of OneDrive.

    this also includes access to Office On-Line to access from any system that may not have Office Installed.

    It does say 5 PC's or Mac's and 5 Tablets, but I think it is actually combined.
    Not sure about that,, will have to research that more cause It didn't recognize my Surface Pro's as Tablets.

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  4. #174


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    Yeah, maybe that is not such a bad deal - especially for someone who has 5 systems and no office yet. But I still have 6 Office licenses for 2007 and 2010 and my Transformer came with 2013 - and the phone has it too. I guess I am well covered for now.
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  5. #175


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    As I had said, I lost my VoIP thru Google Voice. Apparently Google cut the Windows users off. So I got Viber instead. That works OK for outgoing calls except that you have to pay a bit for it (Google Voice is free). But with the few calls I make, the money is not an issue.

    Unfortunately I cannot get incoming calls because for those you need a carrier number on that same phone. When I set Viber up, I had to give some mobile number because they send a confirmation number which you have to use to get it started. That number is being sent via SMS, so my landline was no good. I used my Google Voice number and that worked well. The confirmation number appeared in my Google Voice account that I can accees from here. But now all my incoming calls go to my Android tablet which is on my desk in Germany - I think you call that catch 22.

    In order to remedy that problem I went into a T-Mobile shop today and inquired about my options. There was one that sounded pretty good - you buy a SIM card for $100 and that is valid for a whole year. Outgoing and incoming calls cost 10 cents/minute. If before the end of the year you buy an extension for $10, then all unused money is being rolled over to the next year and so on each consecutive year.

    With the amount of calling I do the $100 plus the addl. $10 per year would probably last me for 5 years. 10 cents per minute is a steep price (I call from Germany to the US on a landline for 0.8 cents per minute) but since I would be making most of my calls via VoIP, that should not be too bad. Now I have to figure out how I make a clean seperation of T-Mobile calls and VoIP calls, especially for the incoming calls. But I think there is a setting somewhere.
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  6. #176


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    It's been about a week I think I've been running Windows Phone 8.1. So far, so good except with the exception of two random reboots.

    Xbox Music STILL sucks, but I've yet to get the update that was supposed to be released today for 8.1. It's just so lethargic, I use it while driving as I have a set up in my car to make it easier to interact with (as well as the fact Xbox Music is fairly decent to navigate through on Windows Phone) and it's borderline going to make me crash my chariot it takes FOREVER usually. It seems like it's a random issue some people have and some don't. Glad they made Xbox Music a standalone app versus a system component. They need to fix it and as with the Windows counterpart, revert it back to the good ol' Zune days...

    I've been playing around the embryo tile settings so I can have three columns...I've gotten used to it now. It does allow new tile and grout arrangements. I can definitely see the possibility of a giant tile like on Windows.

    Action Center is incredibly redundant for me so far. It's only been useful for the Wee-Fee and Bluetooth toggle switches as well as going into Settings. Very interesting thing I have noticed with the Wi-Fi Sense feature, you can turn off your radio and have it turn on when you're near your favorite places; such as your home, work, restaurants, etc. I don't know if it works because I think it just notifies you on screen if you want to connect to Wi-Fi... Very interesting indeed! Basically though, Action Center isn't useful to me as I have what I need to be aware of either on my lock screen or live tile. Action Center is just a redundant notification field.

    There is a new text handle control to move the cursor around and it's a tad better than before, better control basically.

    And then there's Cortana... What a gal!

    I finally got her working and she is a cheeky and very helpful thing. I am quite impressed with the natural speech input. I've so far used her twice to put in a calendar reminder for a couple of appointments and she did it excellently. Regardless of how you phrase it, she'll get it into the Calendar correctly. Overall, speech to text is just damn excellent on 8.1. It was fantastic on 8.0, but 8.1 is phenomenal!

    IE 11 is pretty cool also, I don't know if I mentioned it but it's on par to the Windows counterpart (but better because it actually has a recent history menu unlike Windows). It has live tiles for sites that support it, reading mode, and also swipe to go back or forth. Very neat! With a Microsoft Account on Windows and Windows Phone, you have cross platform browser tab support which is awesome as poop! Wow!

    The Word Flow keyboard seems to have been tweaked a bit for the better. It predicts your next work a tad better than before, and it NOW lets you curse like a sailor. Now unlike before, emoji are in the text prediction field and it does a good job of that too. Type in poop, it will have the poop emoji. Work, it'll have an office building. Cool, it'll have the sunglass smiley face.

    I'm still not liking the degraded People hub experience, but I was reading today that there are some new sharing APIs because if twitter changed their APIs, the WHOLE Windows Phone OS would need to be updated for that. So now, it'll make things like that less of a problem where things wouldn't sync correctly or things from different social networks break. Kind of a shame, really wish there was a way to code around that. Maybe if the Facebook or twitter app built for Windows Phone use a certain share API to integrate information from the app and service into the People hub and Photos app? That way Windows Phone stays Windows Phone and putting people first and if the social network changed something, the app will be updated for that and the OS can continue to deliver that unique social experience that Windows Phone really did pioneer.

    After a week of this, I'm impressed and cannot wait to see how this develops! Oh boy! If you'll excuse me, I need to go learn how to XAML and develop and whatnot for Windows Phone...
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  7. #177


    Posts : 835
    Win 8.1 Pro


    The beauty of Action Center is that if you want to access it and see info you missed, you can
    Such as.... Not all App keep a record of Toast Messages.
    Example, Storm Warnings,, sure, once they have passed they aren't really needed, but can be nice to know if you missed one out of curiosity.

    But there are many other reasons.

    I have 3 email accounts I watch, they aren't desperately important, but mainly used spam catching sites that I may want to register and see a thing or 2 and be done with it and don't want my main personal account trashed. (Common Practice I know, but explained anyway)
    I can make all those tiny, and still see what is important.
    I got rid of the settings icon I did have, as there is an All Settings Link there as well
    Getting rid of a battery icon as well, as the percentage is shown under there also.

    The Action Center is useful as it is now.
    But I have a feeling that it will become even more useful over time.

    Twitter, I am not sure what people are talking about here
    My Twitter feed updates in the People HUB just fine.
    What is annoying is that everyone I follow was showing up in my Contacts till I figured out how to hide them.
    But I am not, never have been a big tweeter :P
    I don't do Facebook anyway.

    You can also use Cortana to open Pinned sites if you have any.

    If you are going to start Dev'ing,, do yourself and everyone else a favor and,,,
    Get rid of unnecessary requirements and list the reasons why the ones you might use, will be used for.
    Can't stand seeing Apps that have every dang thing under the sun enabled when they really only need one or 2 or none at all.
    I won't install them, don't need them that badly.
    It's a sign of lazy coding, or over zealous data mining.
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  8. #178


    Posts : 5,707
    Windows 8.1 Pro


    Quote Originally Posted by Tepid View Post
    The beauty of Action Center is that if you want to access it and see info you missed, you can
    Such as.... Not all App keep a record of Toast Messages.
    Example, Storm Warnings,, sure, once they have passed they aren't really needed, but can be nice to know if you missed one out of curiosity.

    But there are many other reasons.

    I have 3 email accounts I watch, they aren't desperately important, but mainly used spam catching sites that I may want to register and see a thing or 2 and be done with it and don't want my main personal account trashed. (Common Practice I know, but explained anyway)
    I can make all those tiny, and still see what is important.
    I got rid of the settings icon I did have, as there is an All Settings Link there as well
    Getting rid of a battery icon as well, as the percentage is shown under there also.

    The Action Center is useful as it is now.
    But I have a feeling that it will become even more useful over time.

    Twitter, I am not sure what people are talking about here
    My Twitter feed updates in the People HUB just fine.
    What is annoying is that everyone I follow was showing up in my Contacts till I figured out how to hide them.
    But I am not, never have been a big tweeter :P
    I don't do Facebook anyway.

    You can also use Cortana to open Pinned sites if you have any.

    If you are going to start Dev'ing,, do yourself and everyone else a favor and,,,
    Get rid of unnecessary requirements and list the reasons why the ones you might use, will be used for.
    Can't stand seeing Apps that have every dang thing under the sun enabled when they really only need one or 2 or none at all.
    I won't install them, don't need them that badly.
    It's a sign of lazy coding, or over zealous data mining.
    It's a tad redundant to me to have an expired storm warning notification. It's like having it there just to have it there to say you have it there. If it's not relevant and needed information, no need for it.

    The thing that annoys me now with the People hub as a facebook user (have a twitter account, regret that decision, will delete it), before I wanted to post something to facebook or view an image someone else posted; I could easily do it within the People hub. Now, it's almost quite useless because if I want to post to facebook, it opens the facebook app to the post screen. If I'm going through the People hub to see the newsfeed and tap on an image to make it larger or even just like it, nope, opens the facebook app. It's a huge pain in the eyeball. It's like, why even have the social integration into the People hub now? Half of its use is gone now...

    I agree with that. Or even with apps that don't have the right things enabled, like the app title bar to show the time. That's kind of a thing I'd rather see enabled.
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  9. #179


    Germany/Florida
    Posts : 4,514
    Vista and Win7


    It's a tad redundant to me to have an expired storm warning notification
    LOL, the weather forecast from yesterday is always accurate.
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  10. #180


    As posted on the other thread > I have updated my Lumia 1520 to 8.1. Looks like all went well. All my data, settings, and home/start screen was saved. First thing I did was go through settings. I'm quite impressed with the additions. I'll need a good week to get through it all.
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