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SSD benchmark better with OS installed?

  1. #31


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    Windows 8.1


    If/when you get this sorted, please come back and update this thread. However, you have stimulated my interest in owning one of these and I see that Microcenter has the 120GB version on sale, so I might go out and buy one myself. So, here's a thank you back atcha and I'm gonna throw in a rep (when I can) for you stimulating my interest in this model. Now, I know what to expect from it.

    Cheers,

    my2cents

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  2. #32


    Gold Coast (Australia)
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    Windows 8.1 x64


    I cant remember setting anything, I did see this (image) maybe this is the culpret. Unless its Motherboard related. All drives are set to AHCi

    Maybe somewhere theres a ramdisk. Im going to have to investigate it all. Thanks for the rep. Unfortunately Ill need many of them to live down the "Goat Incident"

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  3. #33


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    Windows 8.1


    I'll betcha it is that Rapid DRAM feature that is causing those bogus speeds to be reported as such. Now, please understand that I am not saying that might be a bad feature because it is intended to speed up your OS but I have to believe it is just simulating a speedup by caching those writes to RAM (which makes it look unbelievably fast) and then finalizing the writes to disk afterwards.

    So, if I did a large block transfer from my OS drive to my non-OS drive, it would probably give me a transfer complete acknowledgement much faster than without that feature enabled; however, I suspect that the actual data transfer to the target hard drive (from RAM) would continue and a blinking HD light would confirm my suspicions.

    Anyway, its obviously your call as to where you would like to go from here but I (personally) would have to try and toggle that feature off to see if it fixes the benchmark issue and also to see if it has any noticeable effect on my daily operations. If no differences are realized, I'd leave it off and that is exactly what I'll do (eg, test) when I buy one.

    Good luck with your decision from here.

    my2cents
    Last edited by my2cents; 27 Feb 2014 at 19:25.
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  4. #34


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    I just pulled this product description from Microcenter.com and it seems to support my theory:

    More Speed

    Significantly enhance the speed and performance of your everyday PC activities. Boot up your computer in as little as 15 seconds and optimize your web browsing, email, multimedia and gaming to work faster. Samsung RAPID technology boosts the overall performance of your PC by using idle DRAM as an ultra-fast buffer*. With Samsung’s TurboWrite write acceleration technology, you can work faster and the 5th generation 3-Core Samsung MEX Controller will allow you to multi-task faster as well.

    Now, the decision to toggle or not to toggle?


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    Last edited by my2cents; 27 Feb 2014 at 20:48.
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  5. #35


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    Windows 8.1


    Its all explained here:

    Samsung SSD (Solid State Drives) 840 EVO | Samsung SSD US


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    I'm going to pick one up today!
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  6. #36


    Gold Coast (Australia)
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    Windows 8.1 x64


    Well done, Its all making allot more sense. There are other options. "Over provisioning" for instance, also auto OS Optimization. I was hoping for super fast booting with this drive, but its not that easy with the Maximus VI Formula, many things to turn on in BIOS, also a switch on the board, 8.1 settings. Its not made easy, not that its hard but its a bit of a screw around. I had no luck with this at all. Then I found out the GPU has to accommodate the settings, which apparently ASUS GPU's don't. Which is a shame as Ive read as little as a 2 second boot time. That's impressive.
    As for the drive, I might tweak some more as Fast Boot isn't an option, I will turn of OS hibernation.

    After all, I can live with the 15 seconds I am currently waiting

    As for the toggle, I cant see the harm in leaving the Rapid Mode on? What possible negatives could there be?


    Congrats on your choice
    I would of gotten the 120 but my PC is 100GB loaded with my everyday software.
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  7. #37


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    Windows 8.1


    I just got back from Microcenter. I have some things to do before installation so I wo'nt get to it until much later. However, I fear that my boot time may suffer due to any RAMDisk initalization that might be required. Right now, I'm booting from power on to desktop in 7 to 10 seconds and I also have fast boot disabled. Anyway, we'll see how it works "both ways toggled " because I will test it. More to follow. BTW, my entire installation footprint is only 12.0GBs and that includes 23 installed programs and 21 portable programs so all that extra room will be wasted unfortunately.

    my2cents
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  8. #38


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    UPDATE: Installation and data migration complete. Benchmark results follow:

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    Comments:
    The above benchmark is without ever launching the Magician software to set any OS drive options.

    Observations:
    Hard to tell if any real-world activities have changed because my rig was already fast.
    Boot time is about the same (still 7-10 seconds to desktop from power on w/fast startup disabled).

    Where I'm going from here:
    I am going to uninstall the Samsung Data Migration software and The Magician (before ever launching it).
    No need to try the Magician because antspants has already displayed his benchmarks using Magician options.

    Conclusion:
    I like it!


    Cheers,

    my2cents
    Last edited by my2cents; 28 Feb 2014 at 19:09.
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  9. #39


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    Windows 8.1


    Hi antspants,

    I forgot to say thanks for making this such an interesting topic. You contributions were impressive to say the least. BTW, I think you are good-to-go "as-is" with your current settings. Thanks again.

    my2cents
    Last edited by my2cents; 28 Feb 2014 at 22:00.
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  10. #40


    Gold Coast (Australia)
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    Windows 8.1 x64


    I forgot to say thanks for making this such an interesting topic.
    Thanks That's good of you to say. I started this because I poorly assumed I had failed to understand if I had win 8.1 wrong. Thankfully with your help I am much wiser. I am glad it led you to a purchase. I suppose in time you may learn more and share that information.

    There is an on-board GPU with the Maximus VI Formula. I may unplug my soon to be replaced ASUS 640GT GPU's & investigate the fast boot at some point as I can only assume the on-board GPU will support it. Just for the sake of seeing it happen.
    I dont play games much, I have none loaded.
    Having said that If I could change what I recently bought I wouldn't buy the Maximus VI. It is beyond a doubt a gamers board. Its the first ASUS Ive owned in over 15 years. I am really a Gigabyte man, they seem to be allot more customizable.

    As I mentioned, I cant even set "Optimal" (one button config) in the bios or Win 8.1 wont boot. For now I can basically only boot on default settings. Not that I need to overclock but I have a need to learn.

    But thats for another thread.
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